Sales, etc: Support group for Sakura Taisen addicts

[Magitek]

I remember there being a leak a few months ago regarding Sega bringing Dreamcast games to the PSN. Maybe that might open the gates for this.

[nunubx]

Anyway, the PS3 would be the perfect system if you were going to dump all the games on one disc. Sony's looking like they're willing to work with people trying to port up PS2 games to it, there's plenty of room for both languages in each game, and the draw of four platinum trophies on one disc would draw a lot of extra sales from the trophy fans.

You see, there in-lies the problem. Now, I know there are more PS3's than 360's in Japan, but in America, there are more 360's than are PS3's, I mean you'll be surprised how many people own a 360 and a Wii and not a PS3 and if NISA pull a stunt like that, they will basically be aliening 60% of the SW fanbase. Now, you may wondering, "Why 360? All they care about are FPS's." That's not true, Because there is a demographic that will welcome SW with open arms. It may be small, and it may be quiet, but it exist. How do they exist, you ask? Well, if they didn't exist, then the 360 wouldn't have Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, BlazBlue, Tales of Vesperia, Infinite Undiscovery, Star Ocean: The Last Hope, Final Fantasy XIII, Lost Odyssey, Enchanted Arms, The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, Fallout 3, Mass Effect 1 & 2 and, coming soon, both Record of Agarest War and Alpha Protocol.

[odinfan]

Those games are aimed at the Japanese crowd. Realize we're talking about America here. I doubt I'd want ST on the 360. One because it won't sell here, and two, because I'm just not that keen on Microsoft's machine any longer.

[nunubx]

Those games are aimed at the Japanese crowd. Realize we're talking about America here. I doubt I'd want ST on the 360. One because it won't sell here, and two, because I'm just not that keen on Microsoft's machine any longer.

I was talking about America. Didn't you read my post? And, okay, you don't want SW on the 360. That doesn't mean that everyone agrees with you.

[Phoenix_Apollo]

So I take it that the game sold OK? Because it would be great if NISA could at least make a profit on it.

I bought the PS2 version at launch, and it was worth it.

[odinfan]

It probably sold well for the PS2, anyway.

[bloodyaftertaste]

Anyway, the PS3 would be the perfect system if you were going to dump all the games on one disc. Sony's looking like they're willing to work with people trying to port up PS2 games to it, there's plenty of room for both languages in each game, and the draw of four platinum trophies on one disc would draw a lot of extra sales from the trophy fans.

You see, there in-lies the problem. Now, I know there are more PS3's than 360's in Japan, but in America, there are more 360's than are PS3's, I mean you'll be surprised how many people own a 360 and a Wii and not a PS3 and if NISA pull a stunt like that, they will basically be aliening 60% of the SW fanbase. Now, you may wondering, "Why 360? All they care about are FPS's." That's not true, Because there is a demographic that will welcome SW with open arms. It may be small, and it may be quiet, but it exist. How do they exist, you ask? Well, if they didn't exist, then the 360 wouldn't have Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, BlazBlue, Tales of Vesperia, Infinite Undiscovery, Star Ocean: The Last Hope, Final Fantasy XIII, Lost Odyssey, Enchanted Arms, The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, Fallout 3, Mass Effect 1 & 2 and, coming soon, both Record of Agarest War and Alpha Protocol.

I not sure about every game on your list or more relative to my following statement, the multiplatform games, but I do remember hearing that Final Fantasy sold twice as much on the ps3 then the 360. I'm not sure if that was all sales or just one country's, but you can't deny the PS3 crowd even in American. For one the 360 came out a couple years before the ps3 even did, so they've had a head start and with the recent price drop the ps3 is becoming more and more popular. But if they were to make a compilation of all the games why exclude the playstation? Plus they could always make the collection for Japan too. Just because they've had the prior installments doesn't mean that they wouldn't like they remastered and all on one disc for a current system. Look what happened to GOW.

[nunubx]

I not sure about every game on your list or more relative to my following statement, the multiplatform games, but I do remember hearing that Final Fantasy sold twice as much on the ps3 then the 360. I'm not sure if that was all sales or just one country's, but you can't deny the PS3 crowd even in American. For one the 360 came out a couple years before the ps3 even did, so they've had a head start and with the recent price drop the ps3 is becoming more and more popular. But if they were to make a compilation of all the games why exclude the playstation? Plus they could always make the collection for Japan too. Just because they've had the prior installments doesn't mean that they wouldn't like they remastered and all on one disc for a current system. Look what happened to GOW.

What I'm saying is, if they do make a SW Collection, Don't make it a exclusive, Bring it out for both systems so no one feels left out.

[Ar Tonelico]

Anyway, the PS3 would be the perfect system if you were going to dump all the games on one disc. Sony's looking like they're willing to work with people trying to port up PS2 games to it, there's plenty of room for both languages in each game, and the draw of four platinum trophies on one disc would draw a lot of extra sales from the trophy fans.

You see, there in-lies the problem. Now, I know there are more PS3's than 360's in Japan, but in America, there are more 360's than are PS3's, I mean you'll be surprised how many people own a 360 and a Wii and not a PS3 and if NISA pull a stunt like that, they will basically be aliening 60% of the SW fanbase. Now, you may wondering, "Why 360? All they care about are FPS's." That's not true, Because there is a demographic that will welcome SW with open arms. It may be small, and it may be quiet, but it exist. How do they exist, you ask? Well, if they didn't exist, then the 360 wouldn't have Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, BlazBlue, Tales of Vesperia, Infinite Undiscovery, Star Ocean: The Last Hope, Final Fantasy XIII, Lost Odyssey, Enchanted Arms, The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, Fallout 3, Mass Effect 1 & 2 and, coming soon, both Record of Agarest War and Alpha Protocol.

It doesn't matter how many people own a 360 in America. Even if every single person in America had a 360 it still wouldn't make a difference to Japan. As long as Japanese prefer PS3 over 360, then JRPGs will be made for PS3. So even if someone bought a 360 in America hoping for some JRPGs, well then hate to say it but they're SOL(no offense to anyone). Besides most of those JRPGs you mention on 360 were merely just like demos compared to the PS3 version that would be made later on. Final Fantasy XIII is only on 360 in America and Europe but why not Japan? Huh? It's because the game was made for PS3 and more people in Japan have a PS3. BlazBlue is a fighting game. But why do you think PS3 already has a JRPG library of games that rivals or maybe even beats 360's list of JRPGs and yet 360 is an older console? It's because 360 JRPGs don't sell as many in Japan as the PS3 versions.

Japan plays an important role as to what console developers will make JRPGs for and America just gets I guess you could call it left-overs and the same goes for games made in America becoming left-overs for the Japanese.

It pretty much comes down to it doesn't matter what any American thinks as far as Japanese made games goes as long as those Japanese games are enjoyed by Japanese on the console they rather play the game on and are happy with it(or at least purchase the PS3 version). It's like how a lot of Americans who own a 360 prefer playing FPS on 360.

[bloodyaftertaste]

It pretty much comes down to it doesn't matter what any American thinks as far as Japanese made games goes as long as those Japanese games are enjoyed by Japanese on the console they rather play the game on and are happy with it(or at least purchase the PS3 version). It's like how a lot of Americans who own a 360 prefer playing FPS on 360.

Though I hear most people like FPS on the computer more than any other system

[Ar Tonelico]

It pretty much comes down to it doesn't matter what any American thinks as far as Japanese made games goes as long as those Japanese games are enjoyed by Japanese on the console they rather play the game on and are happy with it(or at least purchase the PS3 version). It's like how a lot of Americans who own a 360 prefer playing FPS on 360.

Though I hear most people like FPS on the computer more than any other system

Some FPS are made for PC and then just ported to consoles as half-assed because the developer is better at making games for PC and ports are usually done quite lazy but even so it becomes like a PC-360 then PS3.

Then there is Halo which stopped making the series for PC and just stuck with 360 and sold quite well on 360 even Halo Wars.

[bloodyaftertaste]

It pretty much comes down to it doesn't matter what any American thinks as far as Japanese made games goes as long as those Japanese games are enjoyed by Japanese on the console they rather play the game on and are happy with it(or at least purchase the PS3 version). It's like how a lot of Americans who own a 360 prefer playing FPS on 360.

Though I hear most people like FPS on the computer more than any other system

Some FPS are made for PC and then just ported to consoles as half-assed because the developer is better at making games for PC and ports are usually done quite lazy but even so it becomes like a PC-360 then PS3.

Then there is Halo which stopped making the series for PC and just stuck with 360 and sold quite well on 360 even Halo Wars.

I know there's sometimes a porting issue. A lot of the time that happens where people are just to lazy to make a good port. But there are people who prefer using a mouse to a console controller for playing those types of games. That's what I meant. I'm not saying that the 360 doesn't do FPS well enough that it makes people head for their computers. I was more comparing people's personal preferences to how well the game is made. Because obviously people will choose the one that had the most effort put into it. But I understand what you are saying.

[hedges1001]

sadly its not about being half assed its about money as in are we getting paid for this. truth is unless its stated in the milestone schedule devs have no obligation to port at all

[nunubx]

It doesn't matter how many people own a 360 in America. Even if every single person in America had a 360 it still wouldn't make a difference to Japan. As long as Japanese prefer PS3 over 360, then JRPGs will be made for PS3. So even if someone bought a 360 in America hoping for some JRPGs, well then hate to say it but they're SOL(no offense to anyone). Besides most of those JRPGs you mention on 360 were merely just like demos compared to the PS3 version that would be made later on. Final Fantasy XIII is only on 360 in America and Europe but why not Japan? Huh? It's because the game was made for PS3 and more people in Japan have a PS3. BlazBlue is a fighting game. But why do you think PS3 already has a JRPG library of games that rivals or maybe even beats 360's list of JRPGs and yet 360 is an older console? It's because 360 JRPGs don't sell as many in Japan as the PS3 versions.

Japan plays an important role as to what console developers will make JRPGs for and America just gets I guess you could call it left-overs and the same goes for games made in America becoming left-overs for the Japanese.

It pretty much comes down to it doesn't matter what any American thinks as far as Japanese made games goes as long as those Japanese games are enjoyed by Japanese on the console they rather play the game on and are happy with it(or at least purchase the PS3 version). It's like how a lot of Americans who own a 360 prefer playing FPS on 360.

look, all I'm saying is, make it muitpalform so no matter who owns what, no one feel's left out.

Of course, They could put it on the Wii and make everyone happy, but that would be too easy.

[bloodyaftertaste]

It doesn't matter how many people own a 360 in America. Even if every single person in America had a 360 it still wouldn't make a difference to Japan. As long as Japanese prefer PS3 over 360, then JRPGs will be made for PS3. So even if someone bought a 360 in America hoping for some JRPGs, well then hate to say it but they're SOL(no offense to anyone). Besides most of those JRPGs you mention on 360 were merely just like demos compared to the PS3 version that would be made later on. Final Fantasy XIII is only on 360 in America and Europe but why not Japan? Huh? It's because the game was made for PS3 and more people in Japan have a PS3. BlazBlue is a fighting game. But why do you think PS3 already has a JRPG library of games that rivals or maybe even beats 360's list of JRPGs and yet 360 is an older console? It's because 360 JRPGs don't sell as many in Japan as the PS3 versions.

Japan plays an important role as to what console developers will make JRPGs for and America just gets I guess you could call it left-overs and the same goes for games made in America becoming left-overs for the Japanese.

It pretty much comes down to it doesn't matter what any American thinks as far as Japanese made games goes as long as those Japanese games are enjoyed by Japanese on the console they rather play the game on and are happy with it(or at least purchase the PS3 version). It's like how a lot of Americans who own a 360 prefer playing FPS on 360.

look, all I'm saying is, make it muitpalform so no matter who owns what, no one feel's left out.

Of course, They could put it on the Wii and make everyone happy, but that would be too easy.

Putting it on the Wii would not make me happy. Sure I have a wii, but I'm hearing there is some issues with Sakura Wars and older models. I'll stick with playstation thank you.