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Re: Is anyone looking forward to this game?

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:45 am
by LastFootnote
Generally, I would strongly agree with you, yukito, but I think exceptions can be made when there was never an original Japanese audio track for the game. We've now had an admission that Last Rebellion is being developed with Western consumers specifically in mind (which was pretty obvious from the art style and screenshots) and that only the English voice track exists. I think Hit Maker is expecting to get the bulk of their sales from North America/Europe.

Now, whether or not it was a good idea for Hit Maker to not record that voice track in the first place is another question.

Re: Is anyone looking forward to this game?

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:10 am
by Yukito
LastFootnote wrote:Generally, I would strongly agree with you, yukito, but I think exceptions can be made when there was never an original Japanese audio track for the game. We've now had an admission that Last Rebellion is being developed with Western consumers specifically in mind (which was pretty obvious from the art style and screenshots) and that only the English voice track exists. I think Hit Maker is expecting to get the bulk of their sales from North America/Europe.

Now, whether or not it was a good idea for Hit Maker to not record that voice track in the first place is another question.


Oh, seriously? Well, I never knew this. Still, no idea why they would do that, since, well....JP loves RPGs just as much, or more than us over here. Either way, like I said, I am still buying it. VERY interesting to know this one is designed for us........ wow.

Well, to say the least, I still hope we get that awesome trailer song in the game in Japanese. Everlast is great, and I always loved Jam Project (The singer is from JP)

Re: Is anyone looking forward to this game?

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:23 am
by TheNecromancer
Yukito wrote:
LastFootnote wrote:Generally, I would strongly agree with you, yukito, but I think exceptions can be made when there was never an original Japanese audio track for the game. We've now had an admission that Last Rebellion is being developed with Western consumers specifically in mind (which was pretty obvious from the art style and screenshots) and that only the English voice track exists. I think Hit Maker is expecting to get the bulk of their sales from North America/Europe.

Now, whether or not it was a good idea for Hit Maker to not record that voice track in the first place is another question.


Oh, seriously? Well, I never knew this. Still, no idea why they would do that, since, well....JP loves RPGs just as much, or more than us over here. Either way, like I said, I am still buying it. VERY interesting to know this one is designed for us........ wow.

Well, to say the least, I still hope we get that awesome trailer song in the game in Japanese. Everlast is great, and I always loved Jam Project (The singer is from JP)

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It's an assumption the Jp gamers love RPGs more then English gamers....

Logically speaking(which more then some here seem to be missing when it comes to the VA), games wouldn't be localized out of Japan if these companies knew they didn't have gamers who wanted the product.

If the above is true, then you have to look at the language the majority of gamers in the country the game is being localized to, since in effect you want to hit as many gamers as possible.

I mean this in all due respect to you, Yukito, i don't mind Jp VA in my localized games AS LONG AS the English VA gets first dibs. While i think you may be correct that about half the fans of RPGs(i won't lower myself to use that J or W in front of RPG, because that gives people the reason to expect/demand Jp VA/options in games) are Japanese, i don't believe that is true in the US. It's made to look true, though, that's for sure.

A number of the complainers here regarding Jp VA in localized games are fans who have already enjoyed the Jp version of the game(some admittedly...looks at Marioak and his/her cronies) and really have no reason to see JP in the localized version of the game. Yet they still show up to force feed why it needs to be in the game....that's a crime in itself....

I'd also like to point out that while you use WKC as a talking point, the fact is the game is a PS3 game, and Jp fans can just as easily import the game and get their Jp love fest going without ruining the English VA fans day. But we all know it's not about all gamers, now is it......it's about Jp gamers.

It's a shame that the not so silent minority always makes a point of showing up for these games.

There are plenty of examples of points of discussion when it comes to this topic, but the bottom line is if a game is being localized the the US, i damn well expect it to be in a form that i can play first, and not a bone that's been thrown to me while Jp gamers get their full course meal, which tends to happen way more then it should be, especially considering i pay full price for the game.

Re: Is anyone looking forward to this game?

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:54 am
by perrandy
i agree with necromancer i think that games/anime that are imported from japan should be dubbed in english.since, it wouldnt make sense to port a game in a language that 98 percent of rpg fans and otaku doesnt understand...

with that beign said, i'm not opposed to add the option of japanese language if disc space and royalty fees allows.besides, dubs have improve greatly for both jrpgs and anime in the last decade or so to the point that its rare and a abomination too to have a bad dub..ie: chaos wars :lol:

i know that japanese seiyuus/actors/actresses tend to be pretty professional with their work. but again, american/canadians voice actors are not far behind and i would say that in some cases they have perform better than the japanese counterparts . 8-)

Re: Is anyone looking forward to this game?

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:49 pm
by Ryo_Suzuki
Rosenqueen is now offering a poster when you pre-order Last Rebellion!

I'm still deciding on whether I should get Last Rebellion or Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth. :\ My DS touch screen doesn't work, so I'm leaning towards Last Rebellion. A shame that Last Rebellion is now a turn based rpg. It doesn't really bother me as long as the game is interesting or the battle system is addicting. I just prefer actions rpgs. :)

Re: Is anyone looking forward to this game?

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:27 am
by matmanx1
Here's my problem with it. We've yet (unless I'm mistaken, and I'd love to be proven wrong here!) to see any fresh gameplay videos. I'm a fan of NIS and I'm a fan of RPG's and honestly I enjoyed Blade Dancer except for the VERY slow pace of combat. I'd probably pre-order and buy if I had a few gameplay videos to view and I liked what I saw.

I prefer action RPG's but turn based is ok if the action is reasonably brisk and I'm not doing alot of standing around looking at a timer and waiting for my next turn. So at this point I'm a little skeptical at the lack of information we've received.

Re: Is anyone looking forward to this game?

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:57 pm
by perrandy
is interesting to note that the game is slated for february but without a definite date yet.also, how come amazon.com and now rosenqueen has it but gamestop doesnt ? :?

Re: Is anyone looking forward to this game?

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:59 am
by Xixato
In Europe the date is 12 march

Re: Is anyone looking forward to this game?

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:24 am
by LastFootnote
In Japan, the release date is January 28, less than 2 weeks away, and even on the Japanese website I can't find any gameplay videos. Doesn't bode well. I'd definitely wait to see reviews before buying this one.

Re: Is anyone looking forward to this game?

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:16 am
by matmanx1
Well Amazon.com has the pre-order for $39.99 which isn't a bad price. I went ahead and pre-ordered it with the knowledge that I can still cancel it if I change my mind. I still want more information but at least this way I'm covered at a good price.

Re: Is anyone looking forward to this game?

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:05 pm
by ReinHime
Well now that Rosenqueen has announced their preorder I will be preordering within the week. A soundtrack and a poster are pretty good preorder bonuses. I have to admit I had my fingers crossed for an art book as what attracted me to the game in the first spot was the lovely art. But I'm just happy to have preorder extras! And I'm excited to see what image they will announce for the other side of the poster. I almost hope it is crappy so that I don't have to choose though...

Re: Is anyone looking forward to this game?

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:29 pm
by XCronoX
I hope an artbook is the bouns for pre-ordering in stores, also this comes out the same day as Ar Tonelico III in Japan?

Re: Is anyone looking forward to this game?

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:11 pm
by perrandy
now i'm really worried about this game since famitsuu gave it a mediocre score.i know i know its famitsu which gave a perfect score to nintendogs but still...i hope this game isnt as bad as they say it is :shock:

Re: Is anyone looking forward to this game?

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:54 pm
by LastFootnote
Well, as much as I wanted Hit Maker to turn their record around and release a better-quality product, I can't say I'm surprised. Famitsu is only one source and their opinion isn't the end-all-be-all, but so far it's not looking good for Last Rebellion.

Re: Is anyone looking forward to this game?

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:59 am
by Aeneid
I'm guessing that it didn't appeal to Famitsu at all because the game is targeting the Western audience, but then again, Famitsu isn't all that. More often than not, they give perfect scores out of courtesy. ^^;;

I have to admit, I want a PS3 because of this game. XD;;; I got drawn in by the art style and the plot.