Umineko no Naku Koro ni PS3 Version

[Justwantedtopointout]

I'm a little disappointed that the Umineko fanbase isn't coming here to make their requests for this game known. Seriously, Umineko has a massively large fanbase and I have seen many people clamoring for a Localization of this PS3 version on other forums. I saw this thread was up to 10 pages and I hoped it was full of everyone trying to convince NISA to take this project on.

Anyway, yes, I joined just to say that I do indeed really hope they at least consider this. I know Sony gave them crap about Visual Novels in the past, but I don't think Sony realizes how large the Umineko fanbase is. It's one of the most popular Visual Novels of all time, and the desire for this PS3 version is pretty staggering. As it stands, I am already definitely buying a PS3 for this game, and I'd rather not have to import the Japanese version since I don't understand Japanese. But I will if I have to. Even if I do import the game, I'd still buy the English version if it came out. That's how much I love Umineko and want this PS3 version. I know there are tons of people who feel the same way.

Anyway, vampko, Episode 1 is slow and takes awhile to pick up, and the story doesn't really become amazing until Episode 2 (and continues to get more amazing with each Episode). But if you don't like it that much that early on, don't force yourself to play it. Like I said, the Umineko fanbase is massive, both in Japan and America, but that doesn't mean every person ever is going to like it. It could just not be your thing. Either way, don't fill this thread with negativity.

We have to be positive. We have to at least hold out for a shining ray of light that NISA will at least consider this. I will continue to be positive until they specifically come out and say they won't. We all need to start thinking this way. After all, without love, it cannot be seen.

It's only fair to get a negative opinion in a thread. If you never see the opposing view point, then you don't really know how much the game is wanted.

I have decided it's not worth continuing unless all the parents (cept Natuhime and maybe Rosa) get killed early on. Their bantering and superiority complexes are making me want to kill all of them off myself. I don't like a story that makes me want to kill off half the cast. All the kids of the parents have got their charm though, and every servant, cept Gohda is really likable. And, to be honest, I find I have more like for the grandpa than all the parents.

If I had the ability, I would be the killer

And all this talk they do just makes me feel depressed and frustrated, which I don't think is the best way to open up a book. I also don't think a super long expository works very well either. Too much story, with no real excitement.

I don't know how much longer I can go on, but I will try my best. If it weren't for Battler, Maria, Jessica, George, Shannon, Kanon, Kumasawa, Genji, Nanjo, and the grandpa guy, I would not be able to cotinue this at all. Oh, and I really feel for Natsu-chan. Rosa's acceptable, but that's about it. The rest of the cast makes me want to (what I am about to say is VERY gruesome, these are the true feelings I have when I read this)

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take a knife, a dull one, stab their eyes, slowly pulling them out, proceeed to skin them alive, pooling all the blood in a bucket, feeding the blood back to them as I start hacking away at their bones cutting off limbs one by one

For the grandpa, he seems pretty cruel, so I might add him into my spree....

I can at least give kudos for making characters I already hate with a deep and morbid passion so early on.

Ohohohoho, Keep playing. Also, note that the characters are supposed to be unlikeable, I feel. I won't go into spoiler teritory, but you're not wrong for hating the adults.

Naturally, I registered to show my support, Here's hoping it gets released here!

[goldenwitch]

I don't think there is anyone that liked the adults in Episode 1. In my opinion, I didn't really start to like all the cast until Episode 3. But since the main characters for most of the story are the ones who are likable from the start, it wasn't an issue.

And, yes, the money talk and arguments in the beginning of Episode 1 are not really fun to read. But it doesn't last THAT long and what they say comes into play in later Episodes. At least read until the First Twilight and a bit after, and if you don't like it then stop. Again, the game gets amazing with Episode 2 but if you hate Episode 1 that much then why force yourself? Like I said, no matter how many people love something, there will always be people who can't get into it. It's not a bad thing.

I also wasn't trying to say you can't express your dislike for it if you don't like it, but don't turn that into all the thread is about because there are hundreds (or more?) of people out there begging someone to bring this over to America, and their voices need to be heard too.

[Shizuka]

I got my way on through the series was watching Higurashi (Season 1+2) and then watching Umineko (Season 1), then you'll like the game right from the start. I know that's a lot, but the anime is great (both of them).

[vampko]

Well, all I have to say, is that the sound is pretty much not really all that important so far. I can't really see how this could be called a 'sound novel'. The story's interesting, but I just can't justify spending more than 20 dollars to have this. That's all really.

That, and I'd rather just read a text-only version of this, all this clicking is really annoying me. Even pressing a button constantly would be annoying.

I just can't get off the fence on this one...

[vampko]

After having experienced when others say the story picks up, I have decided this just isn't for me. It's way too slow, and I am tired of not

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seeing Beatrice. I think it would be much more interesting if I saw Beatrice

. Plus, I think this would just play out better as an anime. I also would not be against reading this as a book. The sounds really do nothing to help it in my opinion. It just feels like too much reading, mixed with too little action. If I was reading a book, it would be different, as I would be expected to play out everything in my head. But, instead I get stills every so often only slightly displaying the images I should be playing out in my head.

It is a nice story, but I can't support this when there are much better choices out there that actually work well with their medium. At the very least, this has me actually interested in the anime much more now.

[Shizuka]

Umineko no Naku Koro Ni Headed To PlayStation 3

Also, they showed the improvement between the PC version and the DS version, designed by Alchemist:



If they took the PC version and improved to the DS version like that, I'm thinking about the PS3 game when it's done.

[Phoenix_Apollo]

So I guess I'm the only one who wouldn't mind the blurry water-color look of the original PC games? Probably.

[Shizuka]

I wouldn't mind either, but it's good that the game will be getting better graphics and art.

[Koinu]

Completely willing to buy this first day! Registered just to beg for it.

[Stardust]

Also here to post my support -- I know VNs have a history of doing badly here, but I have reason to believe Umineko is a bit of a different story. Yes, it has a large fanbase (especially for a visual novel), but more than that, it has a very dedicated fanbase. As in, a fanbase of people who will theorize and argue for hours on end over bits and pieces of different colored text, a fanbase willing to translate six huge visual novels with no payment (with more on the way, even!), a fanbase filled with people who I've already seen saying would buy two copies of this game were it released in English.

As a huge fan myself of course, I would purchase this on day one no questions asked. Heck, I'd purchase this even if it showed up here untranslated. And I can think of several people who love this series who would probably do the same off the top of my head.

Licensing visual novels always comes with a big risk, but Umineko might really be one worth considering, and I'm trying to say this in the least biased way possible. As a VN it has a ton of Western fans, and as a general game the quality of the fans speaks more than the quantity.

I know chances are slim, but I'm going to give this all the support I possibly can. It's truly a wonderful series and I'd love to see this reach western shores.

[lordryo]

It looks really nice! Much improved, I like it.

[Daverost]

I'm a little disappointed that the Umineko fanbase isn't coming here to make their requests for this game known. Seriously, Umineko has a massively large fanbase and I have seen many people clamoring for a Localization of this PS3 version on other forums. I saw this thread was up to 10 pages and I hoped it was full of everyone trying to convince NISA to take this project on.

I posted a link for the topic at the GameFAQs Tea Party, but it doesn't look like many/any people showed up. Someone else posted a link to an Atlus request for localization and that topic was barren, too. Umineko fans seem to be lazy right now.

The story's interesting, but I just can't justify spending more than 20 dollars to have this.

I think your problem is you want this to be something it's not. And even then, you're expecting it to be cheaper than it would be. You will NEVER find a novel that takes 50 hours to read for $20 or less. Ever. $40 for the PC version is a bargain and $60 for a PS3 version would still be fairly priced.

As for the sound novel issue, compared to normal visual novels, emphasis isn't on the graphics. It's on the music and ambiance. In most VNs, the soundtrack and sound effects are an afterthought. In Higurashi/Umineko, they're the focus. It's like how Silent Hill 1 is still scary because of the atmosphere, even if everyone looks like a blocky, blurry monster.

It's way too slow, and I am tired of not

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seeing Beatrice. I think it would be much more interesting if I saw Beatrice

.

I hate that you make me do this.

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She shows up at the end of the episode and then never leaves the game again and she's a great character. I'm disappointed that I had to tell you this before you quit.

Plus, I think this would just play out better as an anime.

They tried. It didn't.

I also would not be against reading this as a book. The sounds really do nothing to help it in my opinion. It just feels like too much reading, mixed with too little action. If I was reading a book, it would be different, as I would be expected to play out everything in my head. But, instead I get stills every so often only slightly displaying the images I should be playing out in my head.

It is a nice story, but I can't support this when there are much better choices out there that actually work well with their medium.

Now I have no idea what you're talking about. It essentially is a book. Visual novel. How does it feel like too much reading when you'd have even more to read without the images and sound?

If you're going to waste your time with the anime, don't let me stop you, but don't come back here and support this afterward.

If they took the PC version and improved to the DS version like that, I'm thinking about the PS3 game when it's done.

That's kind of a trick comparison, since the DS version screenshots are from event CGs, not sprites. This would be a better comparison:




The bottom one is the PS2 sprites/backgrounds patched onto the PC version, but the graphics are the same as the DS version.

[vampko]

The story's interesting, but I just can't justify spending more than 20 dollars to have this.

I think your problem is you want this to be something it's not. And even then, you're expecting it to be cheaper than it would be. You will NEVER find a novel that takes 50 hours to read for $20 or less. Ever. $40 for the PC version is a bargain and $60 for a PS3 version would still be fairly priced.

As for the sound novel issue, compared to normal visual novels, emphasis isn't on the graphics. It's on the music and ambiance. In most VNs, the soundtrack and sound effects are an afterthought. In Higurashi/Umineko, they're the focus. It's like how Silent Hill 1 is still scary because of the atmosphere, even if everyone looks like a blocky, blurry monster.

Cept, the sound did little for me. Maybe it changes in the future episodes?

It's way too slow, and I am tired of not

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seeing Beatrice. I think it would be much more interesting if I saw Beatrice

.

I hate that you make me do this.

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She shows up at the end of the episode and then never leaves the game again and she's a great character. I'm disappointed that I had to tell you this before you quit.

It's fine, I actually know a lot about the anime (cause my brother watched it) and it sounds very interesting to me.

Plus, I think this would just play out better as an anime.

They tried. It didn't.

I also would not be against reading this as a book. The sounds really do nothing to help it in my opinion. It just feels like too much reading, mixed with too little action. If I was reading a book, it would be different, as I would be expected to play out everything in my head. But, instead I get stills every so often only slightly displaying the images I should be playing out in my head.

It is a nice story, but I can't support this when there are much better choices out there that actually work well with their medium.

Now I have no idea what you're talking about. It essentially is a book. Visual novel. How does it feel like too much reading when you'd have even more to read without the images and sound?

Basically, I have a very strong imagination. When I am reading a book, I end up with creating everything in my head, from characters to settings to actions. But, this novel forces me to accept that certain characters look like something, and forces me to see certain things certain ways. Thus, taking away much of the enjoyment I have with novels. It's like giving me this amazing toolset to work with, but controlling which tools I use every so often. So basically, I'm reading a WHOLE LOT of text, but not being given creative freedom. That is why it is boring. THink about it, they show you a symbol, it's completely there and visible, and then they describe it to you in words. That's just redundant.

Other V/N's mostly only use text when it is necessary, and just basically use their art to show you what's going on. Most often, the majority of the text is dialogue, and thoughts of the character/s.

I also have a problem with how the perspective is very shifty. One of the more important rules of writing, is that you choose a perspective and stay with that perspective. Yet, it keeps on switching perspective between different characters. It really muddles the story. Plus, it makes for a better mystery when you don't continuously get to see what's going on with the other characters.

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If it was like, the adults went away to argue, and you just followed Battler as he spent time with the cousins, and the facts of what the adults said slowly started to be revealed as the story went on to Battler, that would be Waaaaay more interesting and intriguing. As it is, they pretty much just tell you everything. I betcha I knew about 70% of the plot already (this is before my brother had talked to me about the anime)

Seriously, it's a much better mechanic.

Then, there's how the story just keeps on repeating itself. Like that 20 page expository was pointless , because all the important details are repeated in one page many times over.

Also, I do not see how it's really all that important to pay attention to the beginning at all. Everything important is repeated again later on. (like how I repeated myself? xD)

These reasons, and more, are why I just can't finish even Episode 1, let alone support and HD PS3 re-make, unless they had branches, which would make the game infinitely better. Oh, and cut down on the text and use images more. Plus, no matter how you look at it, I would never pay $60 for a novel. Say what you want, no novel is worth that much. A textbook, or something of that type would be fine with me though.

[Maemuki]

These reasons, and more, are why I just can't finish even Episode 1, let alone support and HD PS3 re-make, unless they had branches, which would make the game infinitely better. Oh, and cut down on the text and use images more. Plus, no matter how you look at it, I would never pay $60 for a novel. Say what you want, no novel is worth that much. A textbook, or something of that type would be fine with me though.

Except you aren't even halfthrough the first one, and there are four (and they get bigger and bigger). Besides, if you bought every episode individually, that would be the money you would spend.

[vampko]

These reasons, and more, are why I just can't finish even Episode 1, let alone support and HD PS3 re-make, unless they had branches, which would make the game infinitely better. Oh, and cut down on the text and use images more. Plus, no matter how you look at it, I would never pay $60 for a novel. Say what you want, no novel is worth that much. A textbook, or something of that type would be fine with me though.

Except you aren't even halfthrough the first one, and there are four (and they get bigger and bigger). Besides, if you bought every episode individually, that would be the money you would spend.

How do you know how far I am? For all you know, I could have been right before

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Beatrice's appearance

.

Stop trying to convince me I'm wrong. I gave my opinion. It's too bad that you don't like it. I din't bash the game, I only explained what needed to be changed in order for me to support it. You're starting to frustrate me. Look I think VERY diffrently than most people in the world. What may make total sense to you, may be utter rubbish to myself. And I may find something completely plausible, while you may find it impossible. People are different and have different perspectives. Get over it