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Re: Little Princess: The Puppet Princess of Marl Kingdom 2

Postby Daverost » Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:00 pm

It would be a tough sell unless NISJ put all of the Marl games together in a collection, and then it would be hell on you guys to get all of them translated and released, not even knowing how well they'd sell. They'd be a bit of a tough sell to anyone that isn't a hardcore NIS fan, so you'd be selling on the premise of "three RPGs and a mahjong game in one title".

As much as I'd absolutely love to see them, it would be really hard to make it happen, and I'm painfully aware of that.
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Re: Little Princess: The Puppet Princess of Marl Kingdom 2

Postby CelticRedemption » Sat Sep 10, 2011 4:35 pm

You're including the Marl-jong game?! Might as well include the Marl de Jigsaw while you're at it then.
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Re: Little Princess: The Puppet Princess of Marl Kingdom 2

Postby LAMV » Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:15 pm

Oh, just so I know/am refreshed, all the Marl Kingdom games are on Playstation 1, right? And the first two games are completely fan-translated?
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Re: Little Princess: The Puppet Princess of Marl Kingdom 2

Postby CelticRedemption » Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:32 pm

LAMV wrote:Oh, just so I know/am refreshed, all the Marl Kingdom games are on Playstation 1, right? And the first two games are completely fan-translated?


No. The first game is The Puppet princess of the Marl Kingdom: The adventure of Puppet Princess ( also known as Rhapsody: A musical adventure. for ps1 and DS, the second game is The Puppet princess of the Marl Kingdom 2: Little Princess, for ps1, the third game is Angel's present: Marl Kingdom stories, for ps2.
Marl Jong is for ps1, and Marl de Jigsaw is for ps2.
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Re: Little Princess: The Puppet Princess of Marl Kingdom 2

Postby Daverost » Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:32 pm

CelticRedemption wrote:You're including the Marl-jong game?! Might as well include the Marl de Jigsaw while you're at it then.


*Snap* I knew I forgot one. I knew something was missing when I was typing that.

Anyway, you could probably get by without the mahjong or jigsaw puzzle titles, but they would never hurt to push a compilation in Japan and they won't take much translation effort here.

The only hard part about having them around would be the additional testing involved.
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Re: Little Princess: The Puppet Princess of Marl Kingdom 2

Postby Hero » Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:04 am

even if a compilation was made, there's no way NISA would localize it. that would be 4x the work for a single budget release! and if they run on emulation, they might not even be able to localize them! and who's to say Sony would even approve it anyway? why would anyone want a compilation for a series they've never even heard of? (that would be Sony's reasoning)

the chances of localization would probably be better if each game was fully remade and NOT sold in a compilation.
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Re: Little Princess: The Puppet Princess of Marl Kingdom 2

Postby Daverost » Sun Sep 11, 2011 1:06 pm

Hero wrote:and who's to say Sony would even approve it anyway? why would anyone want a compilation for a series they've never even heard of? (that would be Sony's reasoning)


I'm about 300% sure Sony doesn't get a say in what series gets picked up. As far as I know, they're not the ones eating any of the costs. All they do is reap the benefits.
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Re: Little Princess: The Puppet Princess of Marl Kingdom 2

Postby Hero » Sun Sep 11, 2011 1:17 pm

Daverost wrote:
Hero wrote:and who's to say Sony would even approve it anyway? why would anyone want a compilation for a series they've never even heard of? (that would be Sony's reasoning)


I'm about 300% sure Sony doesn't get a say in what series gets picked up. As far as I know, they're not the ones eating any of the costs. All they do is reap the benefits.

you're about 300% wrong

every PlayStation game has to be approved by Sony. SCEA in particular is notorious for rejecting games for stupid reasons. have you been living under a rock the last 16 years?
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Re: Little Princess: The Puppet Princess of Marl Kingdom 2

Postby Daverost » Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:52 pm

They reject games all the time, but as far as I know it's never been on the grounds of sales potential. It's always been stupid crap like "This game is all 2D, it needs some 3D" or "You're not dubbing it? It has to be on PSN then."

I highly doubt they'd ever stop a publisher from bringing over a series because they think it has no sales potential. The only series I can remember them ever really stopping up until a few years ago was Sakura Wars, and that was stopped for a completely different reason.
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Re: Little Princess: The Puppet Princess of Marl Kingdom 2

Postby Houk » Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:45 pm

Daverost wrote:They reject games all the time, but as far as I know it's never been on the grounds of sales potential. It's always been stupid crap like "This game is all 2D, it needs some 3D" or "You're not dubbing it? It has to be on PSN then."

I highly doubt they'd ever stop a publisher from bringing over a series because they think it has no sales potential. The only series I can remember them ever really stopping up until a few years ago was Sakura Wars, and that was stopped for a completely different reason.


It being in 2D/having "substandard" or not being dubbed ties directly in to sales potential (in addition to perception/image). If a game has these things but has sales potential regardless of that, they're more likely to forgive it. But the Little Princess series isn't exactly a hot property with massive sales potential.
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Re: Little Princess: The Puppet Princess of Marl Kingdom 2

Postby Daverost » Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:07 pm

Those can all be gotten around by releasing digitally, though, can't they? I know Sony's picky about what shows up on shelves, but I don't think I've ever seen them flat out refuse a title at all.
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Re: Little Princess: The Puppet Princess of Marl Kingdom 2

Postby Houk » Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:02 am

Daverost wrote:Those can all be gotten around by releasing digitally, though, can't they? I know Sony's picky about what shows up on shelves, but I don't think I've ever seen them flat out refuse a title at all.


Digital releases still get scrutinized. And I'm sure you realize this, but just because you don't see them refuse titles doesn't mean titles aren't getting refused. After all, how often do you hear about the book manuscript that didn't get published or the screenplay that didn't get turned into a movie?
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Re: Little Princess: The Puppet Princess of Marl Kingdom 2

Postby Daverost » Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:48 pm

Well with games, especially niche titles and smaller publishers, we do tend to hear a little more. Not necessarily why, but at least that they tried and there was something keeping it from happening.

Things like Aksys's "AH3 on 360 just wasn't possible. We tried." or NISA's "We just don't feel like PSP games are really feasible anymore."
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Re: Little Princess: The Puppet Princess of Marl Kingdom 2

Postby Astri » Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:10 pm

Here's adding my support to the idea of SOME form of eventual Marl Kingdom translation :3
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Re: Little Princess: The Puppet Princess of Marl Kingdom 2

Postby Mlada » Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:58 pm

While I doubt it would happen (or at least not in the near future), I would so love to finally get my hands on the rest of the Marl Kingdom series...Sadly enough, I think the best way to sell them would be in a collection set as opposed to individual games, but for me, at this point, I don't really care how it gets released. I loved Rhapsody ever since I got my hands on a PS1 copy of the game oh-so many years ago and when I found out there were more games, I've been desiring them ever since...
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