Guilty Crown

[Rydux]

I still don't get the difference in leadership between Gai, Shu, and Neo Gai

Gai is your typical Underground leader, going for a just cause, and willing to make the occasional sacrifice. Shu took the role of the necessary, but guilt ridden tyrant, sacrificing whomever was need to sacrifice for their goal. And Neo Gai just flat out doesn't give a crap about anybody except himself.

[vampko]

I made the right choice it seems. Every post just goes down further and further. I'm sad the show turned into this, but there's nothing that can be done really.

[Obake]

Well

Spoiler:

Inori was acting that way because she'd blank out, and when she came back everyone around her is injured/dead, whereas she was in control of her former badassery. She's scared of herself. I get that. Where this personality and beast mode suddenly came from I have no freaking clue.

Shu is a big disappointment. Every time he's started to become a cool or likable character he goes all emo again the next 3-4 episodes. Every freaking time.

And Gai... wth is up with him? Just because he came back from the dead he's gone completely evil and perfectly willing to work for his old enemies. Completely stupid.

I also don't really get Arisa's complete transformation. Going from an innocent girl who couldn't really do much to a sneaky bitch who slept with some random guy for (??? information, cooperation?) in order to bring down Shu (that part not without cause) and be with her newly evil Gai-sama, who she's gone from having a bit of a crush on to being somewhat obsessed it seems.

I did enjoy the first half, even with its problems. A few episodes after that I could still find things to like, and make excuses for the show. This ep and last even I gotta agree is utter crap.

[AsukaYui]

I still don't get the difference in leadership between Gai, Shu, and Neo Gai

Gai is your typical Underground leader, going for a just cause, and willing to make the occasional sacrifice. Shu took the role of the necessary, but guilt ridden tyrant, sacrificing whomever was need to sacrifice for their goal. And Neo Gai just flat out doesn't give a crap about anybody except himself.

Isn't Gai also a Tyrant since he forces Shu to do stuff against his own will?
Does killing the youngest soldier of FP counted as a sacrifice?
Since I never understand Gai's POV, I got the impression that Shu is doing how Gai acts

And I think it's not Shu's fault for being assigned as Leader and in the end that was all the thanks he gets after the things he had done to them.

[Obake]

I still don't get the difference in leadership between Gai, Shu, and Neo Gai

Gai is your typical Underground leader, going for a just cause, and willing to make the occasional sacrifice. Shu took the role of the necessary, but guilt ridden tyrant, sacrificing whomever was need to sacrifice for their goal. And Neo Gai just flat out doesn't give a crap about anybody except himself.

Isn't Gai also a Tyrant since he forces Shu to do stuff against his own will?
Does killing the youngest soldier of FP counted as a sacrifice?
Since I never understand Gai's POV, I got the impression that Shu is doing how Gai acts

And I think it's not Shu's fault for being assigned as Leader and in the end that was all the thanks he gets after the things he had done to them.

The difference is Gai was a charismatic leader. He used words to convince people what he was doing was the best way to go about things. Shu instead resorted to force and threats to get compliance.

There's also probably an issue of time. Gai was probably the leader for a long time, so he had the time to build up the trust of his followers. Shu didn't have that (not that he was even trying) - they stuck him in a leadership position then kicked him out when things didn't go the way they wanted.

[Rydux]

People tend to be a bitch like that.

[vertical09]

stopped at episode 7, is this even worth watching?

[Obake]

stopped at episode 7, is this even worth watching?

Until these last eps I would've said yes. Get back to me later and I might change my mind again, depending on how it ends.

[Aphrah]

If we don't get a great ending, then this anime will get a massive thumbs down from me.

[Daverost]

Spoiler:

Inori was acting that way because she'd blank out, and when she came back everyone around her is injured/dead, whereas she was in control of her former badassery. She's scared of herself. I get that.

You said the same thing a mod on GameFAQs said. I don't agree with it. That just sounds like a load to me.

[myskaros]

stopped at episode 7, is this even worth watching?

I still enjoy watching it, even if it's taking more than a few pages from Code Geass's book as well as throwing its characters into a roulette to see what new personality/role they should have for the show's 9th inning. I will officially label the show as "wasted potential" though.

[Rydux]

I still enjoy watching it, even if it's taking more than a few pages from Code Geass's book as well as throwing its characters into a roulette to see what new personality/role they should have for the show's 9th inning. I will officially label the show as "wasted potential" though.

At least it's not "Sacred Seven" wasted. Unlike that piece of failure, it's still enjoyable to watch till the end.

[leinaud]

Ep 19:

Spoiler:

Well Shu got his power back and maybe....his balls?

Guess it was expected though

[myskaros]

Ep 19:

Spoiler:

Well Shu got his power back and maybe....his balls?

Guess it was expected though

Spoiler:

19 was much more interesting than the last handful of episodes. Is it worth the garbage disposal they put the characters through in order to get to this point? Most definitely not. However, at least it feels like they know what they're doing for the final arc.

I'm sad that Segai dies though one of my favorite characters. I was hoping he would defect to the resistance :/ Daryl was a poor choice.

Also, maybe I forgot or missed it in the pile of fail in the last arc, what happened to that mass murdered guy with the gravity Void? They made it out to be a huge deal to get him released, then he just falls to the wayside.

[Rydux]

19

Spoiler:

A I gotta say, as nonsensical as it is, having produced a Void arm is pretty f*cking badass. And with that power of his, he's going to be a one man army. But why is it that he was able to pull out his Void now? Did his powers evolve by exposing himself once again to the genome?
@Myskaros Apparently he joined Neo Gai. Though you're right, despite his supposed his importance earlier in the series, his character never developed through the series.