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Re: Senki Zessho Symphogear

Postby myskaros » Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:28 pm

Well, first off, I don't think of describing characters in Japanese typecasts >_> so when I say "clumsy" I don't mean "dojikko," I'm just saying "not the sharpest knife in the toolshed." From the first episode, she was lectured for bringing a cat into class, called clumsy by her roommate/closet lover, called out for having food stuck on her face, that kind of stuff. That gave me the impression that she's clumsy, or at least the clumsiest out of the characters introduced.

To add to it, in episode 2 she's just the clueless character (in more ways than one). Maybe it's viewer bias, but I feel like Tsubasa's pretty obvious in her pain and her dislike of Hibiki, so it just feels like Hibiki can't "read the mood," so to speak.
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Re: Senki Zessho Symphogear

Postby MizuMikomi » Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:32 pm

Meh, I had a long post, but I keep debunking my own theories.
I'll keep watching, I like where it's going... even if Hibiki became annoying. -__-;

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Her constant disregard of Tsubasa's grief is a bit... jarring as well.
However, I am certain that is taken care of soonish, since the OP did show them fighting together. And actually cooperating, so something happens.

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Re: Senki Zessho Symphogear

Postby vampko » Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:42 pm

So she's realistically clumsy? How is that a bad thing?

I'm actually a clumsy person in real life (more akin to anime clumsy xD). And i can have troubles reading the atmosphere. Some people are just oblivious.

PLus, it's not like Tsubasa's being fair. All she wants to do is try and be helpful. How could she know what's going on in Tsubasa's head? And Hibiki was
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Hibiki has every right to be a ball of unfriendliness like Tsubasa, but she's just trying to do whatever she can to be helpful. Yes, Tsubasa is seeing her as an annoyance.

Because Tsubasa is a trained soldier, and Hibiki is using the suit that Kanade used. So, it's a given.

Are you seriously telling me that none of you have ever read the atmosphere completely wrong before?
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Re: Senki Zessho Symphogear

Postby Rydux » Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:44 pm

myskaros wrote:Well, first off, I don't think of describing characters in Japanese typecasts >_> so when I say "clumsy" I don't mean "dojikko," I'm just saying "not the sharpest knife in the toolshed." From the first episode, she was lectured for bringing a cat into class, called clumsy by her roommate/closet lover, called out for having food stuck on her face, that kind of stuff. That gave me the impression that she's clumsy, or at least the clumsiest out of the characters introduced.

To add to it, in episode 2 she's just the clueless character (in more ways than one). Maybe it's viewer bias, but I feel like Tsubasa's pretty obvious in her pain and her dislike of Hibiki, so it just feels like Hibiki can't "read the mood," so to speak.


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Re: Senki Zessho Symphogear

Postby myskaros » Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:57 pm

Sure, airhead works, but I usually take "airhead" to imply "stupid," which I don't really see her as. I mean, I don't see what's wrong with clumsy as an adjective...

Nothing's "wrong" or "bad" with clumsy, I just had high hopes for a (in my opinion) much more interesting way the "super powers randomly thrust upon an unsuspecting girl" scenario could play out, and instead it just turns into more of a standard trope. I will at least give props to her not randomly having mastery over her new powers. Let's call it the "Bleach syndome" :X "What?! He learned a new power and is apparently a master at it?! And we're all buying this 'natural inclination' schtick too???"
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Re: Senki Zessho Symphogear

Postby Rydux » Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:01 pm

Eh, Bleach wouldn't make a good example. But I get what you mean.
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Re: Senki Zessho Symphogear

Postby Daverost » Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:11 pm

I'm still happy enough with the series, but I'm really disappointed that they completely ignored the way they ended the first episode.
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Re: Senki Zessho Symphogear

Postby Rydux » Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:15 pm

Daverost wrote:I'm still happy enough with the series, but I'm really disappointed that they completely ignored the way they ended the first episode.

-sigh- Same here. Same here...
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Re: Senki Zessho Symphogear

Postby myskaros » Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:35 pm

Rydux wrote:Eh, Bleach wouldn't make a good example. But I get what you mean.

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To that I say "Pshaw" :) Ichigo doesn't have any formal training and can't use spells, but he's randomly really good at fighting with a sword out of nowhere. He spends 5 days sparring and is able to beat up an entire army of formally trained soldiers, including many of their elite. He spends 3 more days training and is able to reach a level that only the most powerful shinigami can reach after how many hundred years and can tie, if not best, the most powerful warrior in Soul Society. He learns to control his Hollow powers and can beat most of the Espada.Then he spends a couple months training and surpasses Aizen, a guy who is either the most powerful or one of the most powerful characters EVER, and has been honing his skills for how many hundreds of years past the limits of regular shinigami. Don't forget that he levels up in the middle of fighting other characters for no apparent reason other than Tite Kubo wants him to. The only time he ever loses a fight is because Kubo realizes, crap, my story makes no sense unless he loses here. I guess I better make him lose...

I actually love Bleach, I think it's fun to read, while not a literary masterpiece, but it's like, way beyond the threshold of "suspension of belief" at this point. It's not DBZ power escalation bad, but Ichigo just has no real, actual, faults or weaknesses. He's Achilles/Brad Pitt in Troy. Kubo's the master at hiding the fact that his character is basically God. But, Kubo does know how to make things ridiculously cool, and his imagination for special powers is something else.
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Re: Senki Zessho Symphogear

Postby Aphrah » Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:25 am

Huh, I enjoyed episode 2 a lot more than I thought I would. I loved the OP ~

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Maaan, Tsubasa is awesome; she can kick ass, and look hot in the process. I’m really fond her hairstyle, even more so than Kanade’s. Saying I felt bad for her would be a serious understatement, and that is why I hope that there’ll be no more Kanade flashbacks or else I’ll end up becoming even sadder about her loss. I just hope losing Kanade doesn’t lead Tsubasa to believing that the only way she can be with her is after death, and ends up sacrificing herself. If that, or any other event that would lead to her death were to occur, I would rage pretty freaking hard.

If Tsubasa loses to Hibiki, I will be so very disappointed with the show. I just don’t see how she’d be able to defeat her.

Hibiki’s character design longer irks me as much as it once did. Her inability to read the atmosphere does annoy me however.

Hibiki and Miku make such a sweet couple. ~<3


Episode 3 yesplease~
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Re: Senki Zessho Symphogear

Postby zatrox » Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:44 am

Daverost wrote:I'm still happy enough with the series, but I'm really disappointed that they completely ignored the way they ended the first episode.

Rydux wrote:-sigh- Same here. Same here...

I appreciate they didn't go the FULL ANGST ROUTE, instead opting for something more...normal, albeit I do wonder why they made it look as if she went berserker.

Then again, the second episode displayed everything good about this series once again: decent animation (albeit there was a drop from the first episode, though that's to be expected...), awesome fight sequences, nice music and style. Lotsa style. I ain't complainin'.
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Re: Senki Zessho Symphogear

Postby myskaros » Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:59 am

The style seems really forced when they use excessively obstructive attack name slides. For not being a blatant parody/over-the-top show like Needless, it's pretty unnecessary, since it just feels like they're purposely lowering the amount of animation they do per episode.

I don't know, I just feel that the first episode showed that someone kind of knew what they were doing in the writing department, but the second episode didn't back that feeling up.
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Re: Senki Zessho Symphogear

Postby zatrox » Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:14 am

myskaros wrote:The style seems really forced when they use excessively obstructive attack name slides. For not being a blatant parody/over-the-top show like Needless, it's pretty unnecessary, since it just feels like they're purposely lowering the amount of animation they do per episode.

It's as unnecessary as singing, or having blades attached to your boots, or having german words being said in surprise, or having that steam/pressure-expulsing-from-the-suit sequence in the first episode; the show just loves to play off the rule of cool faithfully. I can understand your disappointment as the first episode was rather grim in contrast, but it hasn't lost the reason as of why I enjoyed it. At least not for me...
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Re: Senki Zessho Symphogear

Postby MizuMikomi » Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:30 am

myskaros wrote:The style seems really forced when they use excessively obstructive attack name slides. For not being a blatant parody/over-the-top show like Needless, it's pretty unnecessary, since it just feels like they're purposely lowering the amount of animation they do per episode.

I don't know, I just feel that the first episode showed that someone kind of knew what they were doing in the writing department, but the second episode didn't back that feeling up.

Well the story "was" too long for the time slot they had, so they did say they had to rewrite it after the first episode was done. Which would explain quite a bit....

However, I liked episode two more than episode one, so to each their own.
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Re: Senki Zessho Symphogear

Postby Rydux » Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:43 am

myskaros wrote:The style seems really forced when they use excessively obstructive attack name slides. For not being a blatant parody/over-the-top show like Needless, it's pretty unnecessary, since it just feels like they're purposely lowering the amount of animation they do per episode.

Along with the singing, I can't find myself enjoying the battles as much as I should be.
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