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Re: Another

Postby vampko » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:40 am

PringlesXD wrote:
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Worst. Death. Ever. Seriously.
I mean, it wasn't even that gory or explicit, but those sound effects... ugh.

Anyway, Vampko. I don't know if you've realized it already, but Reiko is Ms. Mikami...
So she's the assistant homeroom teacher. Or something like that. So it could be her.
And I think it is. :~


...again, I believe
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it can only be a student
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Re: Another

Postby PringlesXD » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:44 am

vampko wrote:...again, I believe
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it can only be a student

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If it's a student, I think it's Izumi. But I still get bigger vibes from Reiko. She's just so... odd.
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Re: Another

Postby LAMV » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:22 am

Wow, this episode was a CUTastrophe!
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Re: Another

Postby PringlesXD » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:25 am

LAMV wrote:Wow, this episode was a CUTastrophe!

Ugh.
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Re: Another

Postby myskaros » Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:42 am

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I gotta say, though, if the ball went out that far, I would've just given up. It's like <$10, you're not really proving anything by going out super far to get it, and you know there's some kind of supernatural curse randomly killing people, so why even bother taking the risk?

The scene with the truck on the highway was pretty epic, though. Definitely the right way to screw with your audience :)
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Re: Another

Postby MizuMikomi » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:13 pm

vampko wrote:
PringlesXD wrote:
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Worst. Death. Ever. Seriously.
I mean, it wasn't even that gory or explicit, but those sound effects... ugh.

Anyway, Vampko. I don't know if you've realized it already, but Reiko is Ms. Mikami...
So she's the assistant homeroom teacher. Or something like that. So it could be her.
And I think it is. :~


...again, I believe
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it can only be a student

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Let's see...

Possible memories of Kouichi being in Yomiyama have been erased, and now a death outside of Yomiyama, as shown in this episode.

Looks like for this class 3, it can be anyone.
I still believe Reiko is the Another.

-Kouichi's Memories and past in Yomiyama erased, even after he's confirmed to exist.
-Matsunaga asked if he had seen her recently, but she denied it.
-THAT BIRD, "WHY REIKO, WHY?"
-The Phenomena followed them OUTSIDE of Yomiyama. I'm willing to bet it's only because she was with them.

Oh, and I think the dolls are just a representation of how people die. They haven't had much importance, and I don't think they will begin too.
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Re: Another

Postby vampko » Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:12 pm

myskaros wrote:
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I gotta say, though, if the ball went out that far, I would've just given up. It's like <$10, you're not really proving anything by going out super far to get it, and you know there's some kind of supernatural curse randomly killing people, so why even bother taking the risk?

The scene with the truck on the highway was pretty epic, though. Definitely the right way to screw with your audience :)

:lol: That was an awesome scene ~

@Mizu
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And I strongly believe it's a current student. I think the whole parrot thing has more to do with what they did 15 years ago than this current problem.

I'm willing to bet the phenomena went outside of Yomiyama...to INDIA!

Remember a certain conversation with a certain dad? How he suddenly couldn't remember something? was Reiko there? no.

Koichi has something very wrong about him. I agree with that much, but I just don't see Reiko as the one.
I still think there's something up wtih the dolls to be honest. But, we'll see.
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Re: Another

Postby myskaros » Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:49 pm

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Reiko being the deceased does make quite a bit of sense, though, as far as offering explanations. Let's say she actually died as a young girl or something. The parrot's words could be Ritsuko finding out that her dead sister is actually alive, hence the "Why, Rei-chan, why (are you alive)?" The deceased was never identified the year Reiko was in class 3, since something was done to keep her in the world rather than let her disappear like the other deceased, which would reset everyone's memories. Maybe Matsu offered her some manly fluids! Through the downstairs plumbing.

However, I do think that she's more of a red herring and the deceased is actually one of the students. Mei is still rather suspicious, as is Kouichi himself.
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Re: Another

Postby vampko » Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:54 pm

myskaros wrote:
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Reiko being the deceased does make quite a bit of sense, though, as far as offering explanations. Let's say she actually died as a young girl or something. The parrot's words could be Ritsuko finding out that her dead sister is actually alive, hence the "Why, Rei-chan, why (are you alive)?" The deceased was never identified the year Reiko was in class 3, since something was done to keep her in the world rather than let her disappear like the other deceased, which would reset everyone's memories. Maybe Matsu offered her some manly fluids! Through the downstairs plumbing.

However, I do think that she's more of a red herring and the deceased is actually one of the students. Mei is still rather suspicious, as is Kouichi himself.

yeah,
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As much as Mei assures Koichi eh's not the other, there's still that possibility. I do kind of think it's Azukawa (prez, incase I got her name wrong). What better way to ensure things go your way than to be the head of countermeasures? She did say that she elected herself. When it's usually the teacher that does so. And, I just had throughout it, the feeling of, 'what if the head of countermeasures was the other? Wouldn't htat make it nigh impossible to put the accusation on that person?''
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Re: Another

Postby PringlesXD » Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:22 am

myskaros wrote:
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Reiko being the deceased does make quite a bit of sense, though, as far as offering explanations. Let's say she actually died as a young girl or something. The parrot's words could be Ritsuko finding out that her dead sister is actually alive, hence the "Why, Rei-chan, why (are you alive)?" The deceased was never identified the year Reiko was in class 3, since something was done to keep her in the world rather than let her disappear like the other deceased, which would reset everyone's memories. Maybe Matsu offered her some manly fluids! Through the downstairs plumbing.

However, I do think that she's more of a red herring and the deceased is actually one of the students. Mei is still rather suspicious, as is Kouichi himself.

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I don't see how she would appear as a woman, then.


vampko wrote:
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As much as Mei assures Koichi eh's not the other, there's still that possibility. I do kind of think it's Azukawa (prez, incase I got her name wrong). What better way to ensure things go your way than to be the head of countermeasures? She did say that she elected herself. When it's usually the teacher that does so. And, I just had throughout it, the feeling of, 'what if the head of countermeasures was the other? Wouldn't htat make it nigh impossible to put the accusation on that person?''

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Did Izumi ask to be head of countermeasures that year or the year before? Because if it was before, it's impossible, otherwise she wouldn't be a-- oh wait, memories change. Nevermind.
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Re: Another

Postby vampko » Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:24 am

I'm pretty sure
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She stated it was for that year.
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Re: Another

Postby PringlesXD » Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:32 am

vampko wrote:I'm pretty sure
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She stated it was for that year.

Ah, okay then.
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Re: Another

Postby myskaros » Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:05 am

PringlesXD wrote:
myskaros wrote:
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Reiko being the deceased does make quite a bit of sense, though, as far as offering explanations. Let's say she actually died as a young girl or something. The parrot's words could be Ritsuko finding out that her dead sister is actually alive, hence the "Why, Rei-chan, why (are you alive)?" The deceased was never identified the year Reiko was in class 3, since something was done to keep her in the world rather than let her disappear like the other deceased, which would reset everyone's memories. Maybe Matsu offered her some manly fluids! Through the downstairs plumbing.

However, I do think that she's more of a red herring and the deceased is actually one of the students. Mei is still rather suspicious, as is Kouichi himself.

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I don't see how she would appear as a woman, then.

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Next time you meet a zombie/ghost of someone dead and they're a different age, you should ask it why it's being so illogical. I'm sure that will go over well ;)

Maybe I missed it, but they never said that the deceased came back exactly the same age as when they had originally died. I mean, honestly, we still really know nothing other than vague clues that the town over the years has maybe deciphered. They could be wrong, too.
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Re: Another

Postby MizuMikomi » Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:48 am

Just random speculation and observations. *shrug*

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My reasons for believing it's Reiko:

Kouichi's dad mentioned something about him "being back in Yomiyama", but after some static, he recanted his statement.

We KNOW Kouichi isn't dead, you can't really argue that when it's been made obvious that Mei's glass eye can SEE things that are meant to be unseen.

So why is all the information around him being warped?

Somehow he is "now" from Tokyo, and just transferred in. Akazawa and a few others feel like they've met him before.

If he is confirmed not to be the Another, then it would have to be someone close to him, why else would a memory like where he's lived most of his life would be altered?

That damn bird, it's clearly indicating that something happened to Reiko. That bird likely wasn't around when she was in Class 3. As it seems to be rather young.

Hopefully I'll be able to notice something 'more' to help further prove this later on.

. . . . . .

Ah, and another thing that bugs me about the whole story...

Memories were changed, it could very well be that everyone's memories of Kouichi. Memories of how the phenomena works, and etc have been tampered with.

Perhaps there is a possibility that people's memories were altered to believe this phenomena has been going on for longer than it actually has? Maybe it's only just a few years old and the force involved is just toying with everyone?

What if Mei didn't lose her eye at four? The prologue makes it's obvious, she HAD her eye before the story, and unless Mei had the same voice and facial structure at the age of four, I HIGHLY doubt that it's been that long since she lost it.

Really, anything the characters say should be taken with a grain of salt because we already know that their memories have been altered and likely won't reflect the truth.


Man, I haven't theorized that much since I figured out the plot of Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep five months before it's release.

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My theory was 100% accurate back then.
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Re: Another

Postby vampko » Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:06 pm

I don't use the
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Memories are altered so it can be anything
argument, because that's about as pointful as trying to argue that Truth exists. We have to accept that some of what we're being fed is true.

My memory sucks. I know this. But,
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I don't recall him talking about going to Yokohama. EVEN SO! How do we even know if his dad was really on the other line? Did anyone else notice how it sounded EERILY familiar to how the first convo with his dad went?

Now, our 'proof' that it isn't Kouchi, is that Mei tells us that she has the power to see the unseen. We dont' know if Mei is telling the truth. AT ALL. It's easy to believe her, because dolls are creepy, and we know of those legends about dolls being vessels for souls. Yet, why do you choose to believe this, when you choose to disbelieve EVERYTHING ELSE?

There's a lot of fishiness surrounding Koichi. A LOT. but, there's always been something weird about Akuzaw as well. And then you have how she's trying to move in on Koichi. Course, there's many other things going on which are suspicious.

The nurse doesn't recall Koichi at all (the one who died). She didnt' think he was familiar. No one else thinks he's familiar. It was only Akazawa I'm pretty sure.

Yeah, they could be wrong about the facts. It could just be some random person who has like zero interaction with the class. But, I choose to believe it's a student, to follow the whole reason the curse started.

And, while memories may be altered, I am doubting age of people is being altered. There is the man who runs the library who has been there since the beginning. Sure, he could have always been old, but then we're getting into this memory thing just being a convenient plot device that makes it pointless to even bother speculating about what's going on in the first place.

I just don't even want to speculate under those sort of terms. At that point, ANYTHING is possible and Koichi's dad could be the 'Another'. he could be calling Koichi from inside a building in the school, and never actually went to INdia. And he's not even Koichi's dad, but actually the father of Mei, and Koichi is really teh son of Reiko! WHY NOT!?

See why I don't use that sort of speculation? It just ends up becoming a 'who can imagine the most crazy scenario?' thing.

And if the creators DID use that sort of device, then shame on them.
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