Am I the only one who thought he trailer looked pretty awful

[LAMV]

Lordryo, what game is your avatar from if I may ask. (And just in case the avatar changes in the future, it's a pink haired braided twin-tailed girl with pink and purple dress, looking like she ate some bad chili.)

[SilverCitizen]

Lordryo, what game is your avatar from if I may ask. (And just in case the avatar changes in the future, it's a pink haired braided twin-tailed girl with pink and purple dress, looking like she ate some bad chili.)

That would be from Disgaea 4.

Some game suitable Japanese voice --
All J-RPG

Even if the jrpg takes place in a non-Japanese speaking location?

[lordryo]

Lordryo, what game is your avatar from if I may ask. (And just in case the avatar changes in the future, it's a pink haired braided twin-tailed girl with pink and purple dress, looking like she ate some bad chili.)

Yes, my current avatar is of a character in Disgaea 4. Volcano is her name and I screen capped it from the trailer. Official artwork is a bit scarce.

[vampko]

Even if the jrpg takes place in a non-Japanese speaking location?

Yeah, Sakura Wars was strange in Japanese because of all the supposedly people from all around the world speaking perfect Japanese IN NEW YORK!? That made ZERO sense, and I liked how they did everyone in the English dub(except Rosarita, but she didn't do a bad job, just for some reason I didn't like it. Maybe I'll try it again and like it)

You can't deny that the Japanese voice over is most of the times better,or at least more accurate.Of course,there are the high-pitched seiyuus in games,but still the japanese voices make the game seem more natural,though people that refuse to listen to japanese voices won't get the chance to compare the difference in that feeling.

I always take a shot at listening to them both. And it varies which one I prefer. Some times even, I can't decide between the two, so i have to switch off and on. I generally have gotten to enjoy the NISA dialogue more because they manage to make things more interesting. I've seen a lot of spots where they missed the chance for a great joke, but NISA made sure to fill up that emptiness. I've also seen spots where they missed a chance to give more meaning to something said, and NISA made sure to drive home the point.
Look, the bottom line is the Japanese aren't perfect and neither are the English. But, the English have a stained past (the truly horrible dubbing of anime long ago). Video games have always been a step above anime dubs in my opinion. Some people hate the Lunar dubs. I enjoyed them greatly. Well, mostly the EBC one.

I've said it somewhere else but that 'more emotion' point lies in that Japanese is a musical language relying on syllabatry rather than individual sounds, which brings about a certain rhythm. This is what makes non-Japanese think that they sound so much better. Yet, once you realize what you're hearing, things aren't always so great.

Again, though, it's all opinion-based. We could argue this forever, but we'll probably never see eye to eye. I just ask that people stop bashing the English dub so much. A lot of us here like the English dubs, so please just leave it alone out of respect for the members of this forum. It's perfectly fine to say you don't like it though.

[LordLaharlsVassal]

I have seen the trailer and the gameplay looked kinda boring, just cute girls walking/fighting in really bland environments, it's like they put all the their "brainpower" on the models and designs of the girl and nothing else, so I will not be getting this. But I have no doubt it is going to sell well for NISA, this is pure otaku bait after all.

[Lyner Barfless]

You can't deny that the Japanese voice over is most of the times better,or at least more accurate...

Define "more accurate." That doesn't make sense to me. More accurate match between design and voice? That's merely influenced by what you see/hear first and that association is built into your subconscious. As someone said, this is all entirely personal opinion.

Blah blah blah random opinionated negative comments with no constructive or conversational merit.

Posts like yours are why people hate JRPG and anime fans.

I bestow upon LAMV an e-cookie, redeemable for one cookie. Plus I will name an NPC whatever he/she wants in an upcoming game so long as it's not offensive or too ridiculous (I've already promised a Jasloppy to someone).

[Sheleigha]

I bestow upon LAMV an e-cookie, redeemable for one cookie. Plus I will name an NPC whatever he/she wants in an upcoming game so long as it's not offensive or too ridiculous (I've already promised a Jasloppy to someone).

I am soooo jealous here :p Especially after missing the XSEED contest they had for one >_>

[XCronoX]

Damn weeaboos, get off my lawn!!

[robeduriv]

About the summons, is Sonic among them and do you actually see an attack performed by them? For example, Sonic spin dashing against an enemy or something.

[lordryo]

No Sonic is not among one of the summons and no the character does not perform the attack, but rather just appears on the screen during the attack.

[LAMV]

Oooh, I get to name an NPC? Hmm, other anime and RPGs get referenced a lot, but I don't see much references to Atelier or Ar Tonelico games. Maybe an NPC after one of the main characters from either series? Like the name of a bar or tavern is Liner's Barstand, run by a guy that never takes off his armor. Or a girl named Acirua who does nothing but angst, angst, and more angst.

Oh, and I'm late for this, but thank you to the folks that answered me about the pink-haired girl avatar. I didn't recognize her at first.

[Alicia-tan]

You can't deny that the Japanese voice over is most of the times better,or at least more accurate...

Define "more accurate." That doesn't make sense to me. More accurate match between design and voice? That's merely influenced by what you see/hear first and that association is built into your subconscious. As someone said, this is all entirely personal opinion.

No,there are many times when I first hear the English dub,but it still doesn't feel "right",so I switch to the Japanese and I'm ok.I don't know how to explain it properly,but the Japanese voice actors can make the character feel more realistic,while the English actors just use their distinctive accent to effectively kill the character,making him lifeless/doll-like.Never said all English voice actors are inferior,it's just that the most times the Japanese part feels more like it.It's like they know how the character exactly is and imitate him,so it comes out better.And it's not that I know Japanese,so the language barrier isn't a drawback in any way,I can just hear them and they sound more natural.

Of course,I never said this is a fact.As someone else mentioned,it's only my personal opinion.Maybe I've been forcing my opinions on others lately,however this is for the sole fear that games without dual audio come out.Once one like that comes out,and if the voice acting is weird,it kills half my enjoyment,and I stop playing it after a while.//shameless rant

Not sure that others are as dependent on the sound part of anything in life as I am though...

[vampko]

You can't deny that the Japanese voice over is most of the times better,or at least more accurate...

Define "more accurate." That doesn't make sense to me. More accurate match between design and voice? That's merely influenced by what you see/hear first and that association is built into your subconscious. As someone said, this is all entirely personal opinion.

No,there are many times when I first hear the English dub,but it still doesn't feel "right",so I switch to the Japanese and I'm ok.I don't know how to explain it properly,but the Japanese voice actors can make the character feel more realistic,while the English actors just use their distinctive accent to effectively kill the character,making him lifeless/doll-like.Never said all English voice actors are inferior,it's just that the most times the Japanese part feels more like it.It's like they know how the character exactly is and imitate him,so it comes out better.And it's not that I know Japanese,so the language barrier isn't a drawback in any way,I can just hear them and they sound more natural.

Of course,I never said this is a fact.As someone else mentioned,it's only my personal opinion.Maybe I've been forcing my opinions on others lately,however this is for the sole fear that games without dual audio come out.Once one like that comes out,and if the voice acting is weird,it kills half my enjoyment,and I stop playing it after a while.//shameless rant

Not sure that others are as dependent on the sound part of anything in life as I am though...

Well, NISA is one company that has been very good about always keeping dual audio, so you shouldn't be worried. I like both, and want both, and NISA is the only company that consistently will satisfy this, and many companies won't even bother to satisfy this. This is one reason I really like NISA, they give us the option for both, and don't try and force us to like something (IE Atlus USA, saying that it's an insult to have dual-audio >_<)

[affinity7799]

well in a way, dual audio is an insult if you look at it from Atlus USA and the entire region perspective.
Demanding dual audio is like saying one's native language or nation is too incompetent or untalented enough to deliver good and fitting voice overs! Think of the hard work and paid employees that deliver the english voiceovers and do this for a living! choosing Japanese track over theirs is like a slap! ^^;

Ya based on perspective, people can label some voice acting as bad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulbotKa5LnM

But most people demand dual audio because a foreign language is what they believe will liberate them from being able to identify good or bad voice overs (so if they can't tell if its bad, then they presume its good). But that doesn't necessarily mean the english is bad, just their perspective on things! I mean, it's not like a voice director normally hires their family to do voice overs in games!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAtC1SzWSXg
You rarely see that happen! If ever!

And yes, if people are used to listening to watching subs for the anime and stuff they watch, then English starts to feel foreign to them, so it's really an artificial stigma of preferring Japanese over English.

But in reality, the English voiceovers are just as great! People just have to get used to it and not be so dependant on a foreign language to feel the voice fits. So far based on the trailer and stuff, the English voices do fit and are performed really well! ^-^

[vampko]

well in a way, dual audio is an insult if you look at it from Atlus USA and the entire region perspective.
Demanding dual audio is like saying one's native language or nation is too incompetent or untalented enough to deliver good and fitting voice overs! Think of the hard work and paid employees that deliver the english voiceovers and do this for a living! choosing Japanese track over theirs is like a slap! ^^;

Ya based on perspective, people can label some voice acting as bad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulbotKa5LnM

But most people demand dual audio because a foreign language is what they believe will liberate them from being able to identify good or bad voice overs (so if they can't tell if its bad, then they presume its good). But that doesn't necessarily mean the english is bad, just their perspective on things! I mean, it's not like a voice director normally hires their family to do voice overs in games!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAtC1SzWSXg
You rarely see that happen! If ever!

And yes, if people are used to listening to watching subs for the anime and stuff they watch, then English starts to feel foreign to them, so it's really an artificial stigma of preferring Japanese over English.

But in reality, the English voiceovers are just as great! People just have to get used to it and not be so dependant on a foreign language to feel the voice fits. So far based on the trailer and stuff, the English voices do fit and are performed really well! ^-^

I mainly like having the option for the Japanese voiceover, because I like both of them. I don't think one or the other is superior, and I like seeing how each of them perform the role. It's nowhere near an insult to be asking for both to be include. It would be an insult to demand only the Japanese voice over. I think it's amazing how NISA handles the extremely fickle and unpleasable otaku/JRPG crowd. People will go flat out and say their dubbing sucks, and they'll just say you'll be happy to know that the full Japanese audio will be included. THAT is some tactful PR. Atlus USA would probably either ignore that person entirely, or flame them, or go on about how it's an insult to the English VA's to say that.

But, when it's someone like myself just wanting the option of both (it's a great way to increase replay value, having seperate playthroughs for English and Japanese), it's hardly an insult to the English VA's or the rigourous process Atlus USA went through for the dubbing.