This is why game reviews fail...

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Re: This is why game reviews fail...

Postby Sheleigha » Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:51 am

Esper wrote:At least the EGM reviewer actually PLAYED the game. I may not agree with him, but at least it's unbiased and actually goes into several relevant points.

http://www.egmnow.com/articles/reviews/ ... tunia-mk2/

Can't delete emoticon, stupid phone... Anyways, yes, here's an actual review of someone who played it, who isn't judging it based on looks alone...
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vampko wrote:It's not much better to make a topic solely dedicated to complaining about how much reviewers dislike the game you like >.>


What i said about fanbase. But even still, their opinion is supposedly Professional, and they get paid for it. Why should a fan forum, with underage kids included within, be expected to a higher standard. Vampy-pooh, youre normally nice, why such a snarky meanie pants.


Aww that phrase makes me want to play MK2 all the more! Anyways yes, I speak of professionalism, in which the above reviews had none, and yet sadly, get paid for it. It's the equivalent of doing a review of a Queens Blade game, where the review simply says "boobs". Now, that says nothing about the game, and I'm sure they'd add on how perverted it is, yadda yadda....

Speaking of reviewers, movie critics sure don't have the most professionalism either, making jokes left and right. Yeah, I check Rotten Tomatoes every now and then, but I never actually read the reviews.
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Re: This is why game reviews fail...

Postby Sik » Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:01 am

So, I just told my mum what the reviewer said about Neptunia, and she says the reviewer is an idiot >.>'
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Re: This is why game reviews fail...

Postby hibari-sama » Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:06 am

Sik wrote:So, I just told my mum what the reviewer said about Neptunia, and she says the reviewer is an idiot >.>'

wut?
your mother plays neptunia?that's awesome.
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Re: This is why game reviews fail...

Postby Sik » Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:29 am

hibari-sama wrote:your mother plays neptunia?that's awesome.

If she did that'd mean I could afford to buy the game... I wish that was the case x_x She doesn't understand English anyways (let alone Japanese).

She likes Purple Heart though :v
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Re: This is why game reviews fail...

Postby hibari-sama » Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:54 am

Sik wrote:
hibari-sama wrote:your mother plays neptunia?that's awesome.

If she did that'd mean I could afford to buy the game... I wish that was the case x_x She doesn't understand English anyways (let alone Japanese).

She likes Purple Heart though :v

sufficiently epic (i can't know what happen if i say "mom,i REALLY like this character/girl*show an image of white-sama*")
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Re: This is why game reviews fail...

Postby Tokiko » Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:02 am

hibari-sama wrote:
Sik wrote:
hibari-sama wrote:your mother plays neptunia?that's awesome.

If she did that'd mean I could afford to buy the game... I wish that was the case x_x She doesn't understand English anyways (let alone Japanese).

She likes Purple Heart though :v

sufficiently epic (i can't know what happen if i say "mom,i REALLY like this character/girl*show an image of white-sama*")


But how could you not like white heart? she's so adowable! as long as your mom never hears her talk anyway that might change her mind on her XD
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Re: This is why game reviews fail...

Postby Venus » Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:18 am

Sik wrote:
vampko wrote:It's not much better to make a topic solely dedicated to complaining about how much reviewers dislike the game you like >.>

Eh, the problem here is bashing the fanbase, not the game =S Though yeah, title is misleading, most reviews from haters just bash the game rather than trying to be insulting.

Vampko is exactly right. You guys all know precisely how these reviewers are and what they are going to say. We all knew Mk2 was going to get a mediocre to bad score. I'm not saying the reviewers are right by any stretch but what I am saying is that none of this should come as a surprise.
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Re: This is why game reviews fail...

Postby Sheleigha » Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:28 am

The bad reviews themselves aren't surprising, I know people hate on JRPGs for whatever reason. But what does surprise me, is the whole "this is a perverted game, and everyone who plays it sick" attitude. It's like taking a step back and saying "all Japanimation is porn". And yes, ill call it that, because some people still have that mindset. I really didnt even find the first game that perverted myself (for someone who's not into blatent ecchi).
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Re: This is why game reviews fail...

Postby Ghaleon » Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:35 am

Actually, white heart is totally loveable when you hear her talk, just dont' hear her when she's angry. But when she's calm she's super soft spoken and and.. Well, before I found out her voice actor was a 190 year old granny I was preparing for a roadtrip to stalk her, when I found out though, my heart was crushed ='(
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Re: This is why game reviews fail...

Postby hibari-sama » Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:41 am

Sheleigha wrote:The bad reviews themselves aren't surprising, I know people hate on JRPGs for whatever reason. But what does surprise me, is the whole "this is a perverted game, and everyone who plays it sick" attitude. It's like taking a step back and saying "all Japanimation is porn". And yes, ill call it that, because some people still have that mindset. I really didnt even find the first game that perverted myself (for someone who's not into blatent ecchi).

lol in italy we are still at "all animation(us or jap) is for kid" then he see gantz and elfen lied...

tokiko:when i was at the "6th school"(1st med.,don't know how to say in english) she wants me to be friend of some bully,and she know it;you got it? so i don't mind it's a problem of how white-sama speak
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Re: This is why game reviews fail...

Postby Venus » Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:53 am

Sheleigha wrote:The bad reviews themselves aren't surprising, I know people hate on JRPGs for whatever reason. But what does surprise me, is the whole "this is a perverted game, and everyone who plays it sick" attitude. It's like taking a step back and saying "all Japanimation is porn". And yes, ill call it that, because some people still have that mindset. I really didnt even find the first game that perverted myself (for someone who's not into blatent ecchi).

I'm not surprised at all and I've been watching anime and playing JRPGs since I was a kid. You have to understand to people who are outsiders it's some strange weird phenomenon that's beyond their comprehension. When they see something like this:

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To them they are young girls being made into a fetish. I think you get where I'm going but I'm not trying to turn this into a morality battle I'm just saying that we see these as just anime characters because that's what they are, but it's common from what my experience for people out side of the anime community to treat animated characters like real people why I don't know that's just how many of them see it.
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Re: This is why game reviews fail...

Postby SaturnineTenshi » Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:55 am

I can't believe this discourse is happening a second (third, fourth?) time.

Well, I can.

But I don't want to.
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Re: This is why game reviews fail...

Postby Sheleigha » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:14 am

Well yeah, there are tons of people who don't understand it, nor bother looking into any of it.

However the main idea of the post, was showing a terrible review, that appeared to be based on looking at the cover, rather than saying anything about the gameplay period.
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Re: This is why game reviews fail...

Postby vampko » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:42 am

Which you guys do too much.

If you want to complain about reviews, do it in the review thread.

Reviewers are people too, and they have opinions. If they think we're perverted basement dwellers who jack off to kiddie porn just because we play a game like this, then that's their opinion. There's no need trying to convince them otherwise by making a post on a forum of a localization company that brings over those types of games regularly. And, you most certainly won't convince them otherwise. No matter what you try, they will just think you're in stronger denial, which makes you more 'guilty'.

Just, leave it be.

Why not focus on the POSITIVE reviews? Or the ones which are more middleground? Why focus on so much negativity? It makes it look like you guys are trying to convince yourselves of something, or have something to prove or whatever.

People have been treating the otaku crowd like creepers globally for ever. It's just a part of having a hobby that isn't 'mainstream'.

If you SERIOUSLY feel like you need to do something about it, then inform the reviewer, or the publisher of the review about why you feel they unfairly represented the demographic who plays the games. THAT will have an effect. It may not be a huge one. But, it will help to at least put a small semblance that 'maybe, JUST MAYBE, these sort of people are decent human beings like ourselves. And they just have interests in other things', in their heads.

Just always remember to keep things civil and respectful.
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Re: This is why game reviews fail...

Postby Venus » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:47 am

vampko wrote:Which you guys do too much.

If you want to complain about reviews, do it in the review thread.

Reviewers are people too, and they have opinions. If they think we're perverted basement dwellers who jack off to kiddie porn just because we play a game like this, then that's their opinion. There's no need trying to convince them otherwise by making a post on a forum of a localization company that brings over those types of games regularly. And, you most certainly won't convince them otherwise. No matter what you try, they will just think you're in stronger denial, which makes you more 'guilty'.

Just, leave it be.

Why not focus on the POSITIVE reviews? Or the ones which are more middleground? Why focus on so much negativity? It makes it look like you guys are trying to convince yourselves of something, or have something to prove or whatever.

People have been treating the otaku crowd like creepers globally for ever. It's just a part of having a hobby that isn't 'mainstream'.

If you SERIOUSLY feel like you need to do something about it, then inform the reviewer, or the publisher of the review about why you feel they unfairly represented the demographic who plays the games. THAT will have an effect. It may not be a huge one. But, it will help to at least put a small semblance that 'maybe, JUST MAYBE, these sort of people are decent human beings like ourselves. And they just have interests in other things', in their heads.

Just always remember to keep things civil and respectful.

Preach on!
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