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Postby Yajirobe » Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:53 pm

The way I did it was
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had Desco beat the sludges with specials from the base panel, then threw her over to the zombies.
I'd throw her back when she got too beat up (which happened once).
Once all the zombies were dead, I threw Fenrich, Flonne, Flonne and Valzy over, and made Valzy walk around the Ally damage move until he was at 1 hp, so Fenrich's Revenge evility was at its strongest, then just walked up the snake, and killed the succubi/moths with specials.
I had to lure the 2 furthest succubi with Fenfen by moving him close then pulling him back.
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Postby Selphares » Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:37 pm

Question about how to defeat a certain Charakter...
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Well maybe I overlook something, but how exactly can you defeat Asagi? I think tehre must be an other way to make sure that she not can use her fusion weapons. Or am I really forced to do quite a really lot grinding to get Charakters that are on her fused powerlevel?
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Postby Rednal » Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:16 pm

:lol:

I love how Disgaea offers so many ways to do things.
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Postby Yajirobe » Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:00 pm

Do statisticians stack in this game like Disgaea 3? Or is 300 the hard cap no matter how many individual Statisticians you have?
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Re: READ THIS FIRST - The Mostly Spoiler Free D4 Tip Sheet / FAQ

Postby citron0 » Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:27 am

I'm finding it hard to plant my feet firm into the game where I'm able to super train my characters like I do with d3. At postgame at the current moment. Getting my butt kicked by flonnes map. Too weak to force chara world in campin map. And the only means of training I have is story maps. Highest level in early 200s

Kinda forgot how snail-like the beginnings were. So any suggestions or help maybe?
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Postby Yajirobe » Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:32 am

citron0 wrote:I'm finding it hard to plant my feet firm into the game where I'm able to super train my characters like I do with d3. At postgame at the current moment. Getting my butt kicked by flonnes map. Too weak to force chara world in campin map. And the only means of training I have is story maps. Highest level in early 200s

Kinda forgot how snail-like the beginnings were. So any suggestions or help maybe?


Pass 1 Stronger Enemy bill, go to 9-4 with Desco + another random monster, throw EXP+ onto the geo panels, Giant Yog Sothoth.

If that doesnt kill them in one hit, weaken them with other characters first.

9-4 with 1 SEB passed = 10 level 99 Eryngi's.
Giant Yog Sothoth has a large enough range to hit them all, but if your desco isnt high enough/upgraded enough it might not kill them.

Can also use 5-2 to grind humanoid characters up to a point where they can kill some of the eri's off before Desco finishes with Yog.

OR you can grind Desco to a stupidly high level, with a few 100-200 humanoids trailing behind, unlock Ordeal 4 and
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Raspberyl.
Giant Raspberyl
is amazing for Ordeal 4 when magichanged to a human.

Edit: I ended up with a different goal while Desco was grinding, I was grinding mana for characters to learn Big Bang off of my Bouncer.
By the end of it, Desco was 700 and
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Raspberyl
was 500, then I went to unlock ordeals.
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Postby citron0 » Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:47 am

Thanks, i actually started doing the whole train desco until she crumbles thing. so im glad i wasnt wrong. And how is COA unlocked again?
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Postby Yajirobe » Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:51 am

For Mt. Ordeal, just having the mana for it
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Re: READ THIS FIRST - The Mostly Spoiler Free D4 Tip Sheet / FAQ

Postby myskaros » Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:58 am

Yajirobe wrote:For Mt. Ordeal, just having the mana for it

Which is 7000 mana. Description of the grinding map below:

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In this game MtO4 is a diamond shape of 13 enemies. You can hit the whole area by using giant MCG Big Bang. See the FAQ on page 1 or the Grinding Maps thread for info on how to unlock those features.
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Postby citron0 » Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:08 am

I was asking because it hasnt shown up yet. Do i have to maybe clear all the extra maps? Cause i would MUCH rather ordeal train then 9-4 train. lol.

One more thing since im here, is there other ways besides having people use your map to gain cp?
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Postby myskaros » Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:29 am

citron0 wrote:I was asking because it hasnt shown up yet. Do i have to maybe clear all the extra maps? Cause i would MUCH rather ordeal train then 9-4 train. lol.

One more thing since im here, is there other ways besides having people use your map to gain cp?

You need to have 7000 mana on a single character for it to show up.

You can duel other people's pirates to gain CP. You can only gain CP once, then there's a short cooldown before you can duel that specific user again to earn CP. There is an icon next to their name when they are on cooldown.
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Re: READ THIS FIRST - The Mostly Spoiler Free D4 Tip Sheet / FAQ

Postby citron0 » Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:33 am

myskaros wrote:You need to have 7000 mana on a single character for it to show up.

You can duel other people's pirates to gain CP. You can only gain CP once, then there's a short cooldown before you can duel that specific user again. There is an icon next to their name when they are on cooldown.



Thanks a bunch. now alls i need to do is finish up work to get back to it :evil:
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Re: READ THIS FIRST - The Mostly Spoiler Free D4 Tip Sheet / FAQ

Postby Age » Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:13 am

Yajirobe wrote:Do statisticians stack in this game like Disgaea 3? Or is 300 the hard cap no matter how many individual Statisticians you have?

It's 300 per statistician. Having more than one of those increases the effect.

Ideally, you'll only want them on two armor-pieces this time around.

CP is earned by Pirates vs Pirates (both on offense and (arguably) more on defense), Custom Maps (both playing through one and rating them, 100CP per star), and Foreign Senators (but the amount is small).

CP will likely be going to the purchase of the +50% EXP geo block, as while you cannot earn EXP on other's custom maps, yo can earn them on your own. Capture those 9-4 lv99 Eryngi and put em into a pattern Fenrich can hit, with +350% EXP. It'll even out to have the same increase as +100% EXP in the end.
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Postby Ubiquitor » Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:32 am

Age wrote:CP will likely be going to the purchase of the +50% EXP geo block, as while you cannot earn EXP on other's custom maps, yo can earn them on your own. Capture those 9-4 lv99 Eryngi and put em into a pattern Fenrich can hit, with +350% EXP. It'll even out to have the same increase as +100% EXP in the end.


Indeed, I purchased the +50% EXP geo block yesterday and am currently using it for a cross-pattern (5 spaces) 8-height block tower for grinding. In the brief time of my using it (compounded with lack of additional resources), I managed to get Desco to level 344.
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Re: READ THIS FIRST - The Mostly Spoiler Free D4 Tip Sheet / FAQ

Postby Yajirobe » Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:41 am

Just ran into a Raffle Shop in the Item World, sells Release Ticket, Unlock Ticket, and X Ticket..
What are the treasure map the description is on about, and is it worth buying 2(I've only got 2bil HL), or waiting to see if i can find an x-dimension ticket guy?
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