Mafia Episode V-Endgame-Town Wins

[JerichoDeath]

Meh. I just got done writing my 1100 word post due in a hour and a half.

I have a very intelligent response for that:
Huh?

[Xeras]

Meh. I just got done writing my 1100 word post due in a hour and a half.

I have a very intelligent response for that:
Huh?

You'll see, it's related to my question about nightkill swapping. Though, you know what, I am sure an hour won't make to much difference, so enjoy the wealth of knowledge. (I am assuming the mafia was polite enough to give Necro their response in a timely fashion. I hope I am not too early.

Okay so this is the track I am onto. (please don’t read until after night one for maximum surprise)

Spoiler:

I am quite certain I will be killed at the end of the night. If this does happen, then there is a good chance that Sj is mafia. My entire basis of PMs with him was to either a) Make myself at least slightly suspicious so that I would survive the nightphase or b) If Sj was mafia, I wanted him to think that I had a major role (like a detective ^^). So ultimately if I have been killed, then it was most likely Sj trying to eliminate the detective.

If I could I would post this five minutes prior to the end of the night, but unfortunately I have to go to hell, and work my ass off to be broke -_-

And in case I do die, I will paraphrase my PMs with sj

Me @ Sj

I’m bored and nothing is happening. I am a vanilla townie. I am saying this so that you either don’t waste your time with a generic, or if you are innocent, you will be able to trust me.

@Xeras

Thank you for being not the only person to be bored. I am the uber God.

(This was before he called me a role fisher in the thread)

@Sj

Phoenix already let it slip that you guys are throwing around ideas.

@Xeras
What I said was assumption makes an ass out you and me. I wouldn’t say I was really working with him.
@Sj
Aha. I did pretty good for a hunch. You guys both admitted to talking to each other. I wonder if he is telling you everything I told him
@Xeras
He just told me that you admitted your role. Nothing more.
@ Sj
What’d I say exactly. I did give him my character. I wonder if he’s letting you in on it. Ah, but I just realized he hasn’t read my other message, so I guess I can see that.
@Xeras
He just said your role. I see that you googled a name now that you have been called out.
@Sj
I don’t need to google a name. I don’t even really care if you think I am innocent or not. I do trust you however, but Phoenix is a whole different matter. That is why I playing with the idea of you two sharing all the information I give. To me I don’t see why he would, unless he is up to something tricky. So has he given you a name from [censored] yet?
@Xeras
Well, I can see why he didn’t tell my your character’s name. I personally think he is innocent because you are trying to get him killed, and you are a filthy individual.
@Sj
Prior to this message, I have not revealed who I was talking to, so I do not see how you can say I have been trying to get him killed. Also please stop calling me a filthy individual in Pms, when you say like you know for sure I am. Also if you succeed in getting me killed, I am quite sure that it will make you look like you are the mafia instead. And In closing me name is [censored]. I have never played that game so I was trying to figure out what type of character he/she is.

@Xeras
I don’t really mean anything by calling you a filthy individual. It is actually more or less a running gag. Furthermore, I do not need to worry about the consequences, because you will get revealed for what you are. Thanks for your character, but it is too late now. I am not sure if you made a mistake. Maybe you forgot it is an important part of revealing. Or maybe you were scared I would call you on a obviously fake name.
@Sj
Or maybe it’s just because I wanted to see how the relationship between you and Phoenix was going.
@Xeras
You are slipping more than a cat with buttered paws on a hot tin roof. You didn’t even know I was talking with Phoenix until after you claimed to me the first time. So, you really was testing our relationship by leaving that out.

@Sj
You are really going to feel quite dumb if I get killed. Though, in fact, my very first message to Phoenix, I asked him what kind of relationship you guys had. Basically, I was making it seem like I knew something that I only suspected. Besides if you keep on calling me out the town will lose. And then it will be blamed on you and me.
@Xeras
And how exactly did you know Phoenix and I were talking?
@Sj
I don’t want to reveal my slightly dirty playstyle but I guess I have too. I was bored, so I went to see who was online. I saw that you were making a pm. So I waited anxiously for my pm, because I was certain I did something that you found interesting. I waited and never received anything, so I went back to the who is online list to see if you were still composing a message. All I seen was that Phoenix was reading one, so I shot one at Phoenix asking what was up with you two. Then after that he went offline. So then I messaged you out of boredom. Then you called me out in the thread so I gave Phoenix my character’s name to see if he would share. Besides can you even prove I have lied once yet?
@Xeras
$#%@#. (Then he made his post about me being somewhat smart.
@Sj
I am starting to seriously wonder if you are for me or against me. I’m getting to the point where I want to avoid too much attention. C’mon man, use your logic and keep me around. If you are the detective then you can investigate me ^^
@Xeras
I still haven’t made up my mind, but I would still say the odds are that you are filthy individual.
@Sj
I guess that’s fair, seeing as I provoked you in the first place. I wish it was night one, so that way I can learn more things.
@Xeras
And how exactly, would you get any information as a generic?
@Sj
Man, somehow you are managing to frustrate me, even though I am supposed to be frustrating you. At the very least at the end of the day, we will learn the role of who we killed. I am not a detective, and I do not think I would learn to much if I was mafia. (Well I guess I would find out if I killed the doctor, or detective.)


And The End.

Ah Ps It might be a good idea if people were to email you directly with night actions, or perhaps go into hidden mode. Or ultimately just have people Pm at the middle of the night when no one is here but me ^^

Edit: and I should also note, my pms with Phoenix were precisely what he paraphrased in Day One.

[lopez]

Hmmm... seems like the next townie lynch bandwagon is starting...

Like Clay (right, or whoever else) said, all these arguments sound intelligent/meaningful, but their all just baseless accusations resulting from people "grasping at straws."

How about we all go back to the lynch tallies and start investigating.

Why didn't Ubi save Naz by creating a tie? Sure, he could argue the "random lynch" or "mislynch" angles...but isn't he one of those "creating ties reveals more information than bandwagoning" fellows? If not, then why did Ubi indirectly (by not creating the tie) think Naz was mafia?

Anyways, a more interactive/"real" mafia game would be interesting, no? Maybe you guys could try doing a Vent/Skype-based game next time.

[JerichoDeath]

Nice plan, Xeras-san, but it backfires if you survive.
Also, I should tell you that, in the last game, I usually waited for some time to actually send in a night-kill order. Discussions were paramount.

[Xeras]

Hmmm... seems like the next townie lynch bandwagon is starting...

Like Clay (right, or whoever else) said, all these arguments sound intelligent/meaningful, but their all just baseless accusations resulting from people "grasping at straws."

How about we all go back to the lynch tallies and start investigating.

Why didn't Ubi save Naz by creating a tie? Sure, he could argue the "random lynch" or "mislynch" angles...but isn't he one of those "creating ties reveals more information than bandwagoning" fellows? If not, then why did Ubi indirectly (by not creating the tie) think Naz was mafia?

Anyways, a more interactive/"real" mafia game would be interesting, no? Maybe you guys could try doing a Vent/Skype-based game next time.

I am actually quite antisocial now. I haven't played for nearly ten years. And I played at church in the youth group. Another thing was if anyone whispered everyone knew, and you can only whisper next to the people sitting by you. Also, another important part was being able to motion when the mafia/cop/doctor would point. (During the night phase everyone would 'go to sleep' by shutting their eyes, and bowing there heads)

So in emotionless text all I really have to go in experiments. In all honesty, you might as well just call me inexperienced, because I never played like this. It's kind of like thinking you can drive, because you are half way good at need for speed.

[vampko]

Hmmm... seems like the next townie lynch bandwagon is starting...

Like Clay (right, or whoever else) said, all these arguments sound intelligent/meaningful, but their all just baseless accusations resulting from people "grasping at straws."

How about we all go back to the lynch tallies and start investigating.

Why didn't Ubi save Naz by creating a tie? Sure, he could argue the "random lynch" or "mislynch" angles...but isn't he one of those "creating ties reveals more information than bandwagoning" fellows? If not, then why did Ubi indirectly (by not creating the tie) think Naz was mafia?

Anyways, a more interactive/"real" mafia game would be interesting, no? Maybe you guys could try doing a Vent/Skype-based game next time.

I am actually quite antisocial now. I haven't played for nearly ten years. And I played at church in the youth group. Another thing was if anyone whispered everyone knew, and you can only whisper next to the people sitting by you. Also, another important part was being able to motion when the mafia/cop/doctor would point. (During the night phase everyone would 'go to sleep' by shutting their eyes, and bowing there heads)

So in emotionless text all I really have to go in experiments. In all honesty, you might as well just call me inexperienced, because I never played like this. It's kind of like thinking you can drive, because you are half way good at need for speed.

Videogames actually made driving very easy for me to pick up. It's very similar, if you just remember to substitute a steering wheel/gas pedal/shifter thinger for the controller you're used to. You'd be surprised.

[Xeras]

Videogames actually made driving very easy for me to pick up. It's very similar, if you just remember to substitute a steering wheel/gas pedal/shifter thinger for the controller you're used to. You'd be surprised.

Well, I guess the fact I learned how to drive before really getting into racing games skewed my view on the example. I remember getting my first psp right after getting my first car. There was only a few games out, so I bought NFS underground, and that is what go me into car racing games. Though, I haven't had to desire to play any racing game to much after prostreet. I barely touched gt5, I sold NFS Shift, and I got blur, and the only thing I like is the destruction derby part of it.

I really need to go through my back log and play some games. I have Iris 1,2,3 Annie, Rorona, Cross Edge, Agarest, Suikoden tactics, Persona 3 and 4, Gt5, Portal 2, Ghostbusters, Mana Khemia 2, Grandia, Vagrant Story, Suikoden, Arc the Lad, and quite a few others I barely touched.

[vampko]

Videogames actually made driving very easy for me to pick up. It's very similar, if you just remember to substitute a steering wheel/gas pedal/shifter thinger for the controller you're used to. You'd be surprised.

Well, I guess the fact I learned how to drive before really getting into racing games skewed my view on the example. I remember getting my first psp right after getting my first car. There was only a few games out, so I bought NFS underground, and that is what go me into car racing games. Though, I haven't had to desire to play any racing game to much after prostreet. I barely touched gt5, I sold NFS Shift, and I got blur, and the only thing I like is the destruction derby part of it.

I really need to go through my back log and play some games. I have Iris 1,2,3 Annie, Rorona, Cross Edge, Agarest, Suikoden tactics, Persona 3 and 4, Gt5, Portal 2, Ghostbusters, Mana Khemia 2, Grandia, Vagrant Story, Suikoden, Arc the Lad, and quite a few others I barely touched.

Get to Rorona first (Cause Totori's coming). Then work on Mana Khemia 2 (I'm guessing you've already played the first one). Then Iris 1-3 (Can't go wrong with GUST games ~_^). Then, just deal with the rest of them in whichever order

[Ubiquitor]

Why didn't Ubi save Naz by creating a tie? Sure, he could argue the "random lynch" or "mislynch" angles...but isn't he one of those "creating ties reveals more information than bandwagoning" fellows? If not, then why did Ubi indirectly (by not creating the tie) think Naz was mafia?

I tend to create ties earlier in the day, since it is the breaking of ties rather than the creation of ties that reveals information. Since my vote came at the very end of the day (due to research/work), I ultimately decided to make a random vote, which of course included the possibility of creating a tie.

[Phoenix_Apollo]

You know, regarding the question asked earlier, there's a good reason to ask it.

I mean, wouldn't you want to know if the Mafia could change their vote to target someone else if you didn't know? If they're locked in, you can say whatever the hell you want, but if not, then you might want to be a little guarded.

[SjSharks182]

Nice paraphrasing broskie

Wouldn't that make Phoenix a suspect too because you pmed him as well?

[vampko]

You know, regarding the question asked earlier, there's a good reason to ask it.

I mean, wouldn't you want to know if the Mafia could change their vote to target someone else if you didn't know? If they're locked in, you can say whatever the hell you want, but if not, then you might want to be a little guarded.

We also have to worry about when exactly the votes are due. Because, they could also just as easily hold off their votes until the very end. It's never safe to just list off strategies that are completely dependant on whether you get voted, before you are sure on whether or not they had all voted.

Of course, this is kind of difficult, because there's usually not much time inbetween the lynch lock and the actual lynch scene.

And I don't even remember if in the night phase there is a statement saying 'lynch lock'.

[Necrofantasia]

And I don't even remember if in the night phase there is a statement saying 'lynch lock'.

There is no statement telling the players if actions have been received. You just wait around the topic at the deadline and wait for the post to find out who (if anyone) bit the dust that night. And I said this at the start of the phase, but I will be unavailable at the deadline. I should be back about an hour afterwards and will start the next day phase at that time. So in this case, waiting around the topic at the deadline will get you nowhere as far as finding out what happened in the night phase.

[Necrofantasia]

Night 1: No Fences Make Dead Neighbors

A cold wind blew through Coriander that night, carrying the sounds of the ever-nearing Black Hole with it. The visitors were still troubled about their failure to identify a malefactor, but still knew they had to get some sleep. Alas, their preoccupation with the larger picture of stopping Sturm's army caused them to miss a critical detail: someone made off with the ceremonial sword used in the execution. The Mayor noticed its absence, but thought nothing of it. He assumed the Professor had made off with it for one of his projects. As long as it was returned by the time of the execution, it mattered very little.

But the one who had taken the sword was planning on returning it much sooner, as everyone would soon discover. The next morning, the town was awakened to the screams of a flower girl who had arrived in the square to set up shop and had found the sword, cleaned, polished, and looking perfectly new...lying next to the severed head of the visitor known as Lopez.

The other visitors, the Mayor, and the Professor were all on the scene quickly as everyone wished to know the true identity of the dead man. The Professor performed a quick analysis and declared "Well, he certainly wasn't evil. His name was Ziggurat 8, but I guess everyone called him Ziggy. He was also apparently part of some society called the Masons. I have no idea what that means, but there you have it." He turned to the visitors. "I would recommend you find those evildoers before we see any more senseless deaths like this."

And so the second day began and the visitors were once again tasked with finding who among them was evil.

Ziggy's body was never recovered.

Lopez (Ziggy-Xenosaga series)(Mason) was decapitated on Night 1



Day 2 will end on Thursday at 10 PM EDT

[Shizuka]

Lopez dying, at the same time that it could show who's mafia, it could be the mafia's intention. Hmm.