For Simplicity's Sake Mafia 2: Mafia Wins~

[Xeras]

Actually, that is a type of tactic I probably would take if I was mafia. But slightly less dramatic.

[GameXtra]

^...and if u were a townie what kind of tactic would u take? killing 100% townie? or killing suspicious ppl which might also be a cop or a doctor?
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I think Darkclaymore is afraid to take risk that a doctor or a cop would be killed - and think that without them, we are screwed.
a great sentence for this situation would be "if you want to gain something u need to take risks"(don't know if u say it like that in English THO, but I think it's quite understandable)

[darkclaymore]

Actually, that is a type of tactic I probably would take if I was mafia. But slightly less dramatic.

Isn't that a pretty bad one actually? For a mafia anyway... If I were mafia I would play the same as always. As Quill mentioned, I do try and play more this time around because I have a pessimistic view regarding this game. So I want to try to do more. Sad though that people dislike my way of thinking regarding defending myself. It just draw the unnecessary attention.

^...and if u were a townie what kind of tactic would u take? killing 100% townie? or killing suspicious ppl which might also be a cop or a doctor?
___

I think Darkclaymore is afraid to take risk that a doctor or a cop would be killed - and think that without them, we are screwed.
a great sentence for this situation would be "if you want to gain something u need to take risks"(don't know if u say it like that in English THO, but I think it's quite understandable)

I believe that without a cop we are as good as screwed. So me dying instead can be better...

[Xeras]

Trap!

No matter which option I choose it can be turned against me. But I am completely against people who do not try.
And I would be more scared of losing the doctor than the cop.

[GameXtra]

I think that relying on our intuition is good enough even without a cop or a doctor. from the very start the whole mafia game idea is to use our intuition to discover the mafia member and both of those roles use the same kind of intuition.

[darkclaymore]

Trap!

No matter which option I choose it can be turned against me. But I am completely against people who do not try.
And I would be more scared of losing the doctor than the cop.

Why? Wasn't it the cop who let us win two games ago? I believe that lynching the first scum is the turning point in the game which will allow the town to win. The cop is the one with the highest chance to find that one scum.

[Xeras]

Our doctors also prevented two deaths two games ago. Jericho and Bloo.

I was working on putting a little suspicion on Sj anyway.

Edit: And also remember my manipulative town role protected two people as well. Protection > Investigation

[darkclaymore]

I'd say
Manipulation > Investigation > Protection

Last game we had a jailer which is kinda both Protection and Manipulation. That's why it was more useful than a normal doc (like trying to protect Sj which resulted in blocking him). But in the end I still think the cop was the most useful.

[Quillbell]

I meant that I prefer going for someone which might even be a cop or a doctor - but might also be a mafia, the going after someone like darkclaymore which is 100% a townie(and 100% powerless, as of he wasn't he would dare to take this kind of tactic).

How are you so sure he's town? You seem pretty certain, throwing around phrases like "100% a townie" and all.

[darkclaymore]

I meant that I prefer going for someone which might even be a cop or a doctor - but might also be a mafia, the going after someone like darkclaymore which is 100% a townie(and 100% powerless, as of he wasn't he would dare to take this kind of tactic).

How are you so sure he's town? You seem pretty certain, throwing around phrases like "100% a townie" and all.

I think he tries to help me but... he's just doing it wrong

Probably feels bad for not finishing my RPG for so long, so he wants to repent

[Quillbell]

I meant that I prefer going for someone which might even be a cop or a doctor - but might also be a mafia, the going after someone like darkclaymore which is 100% a townie(and 100% powerless, as of he wasn't he would dare to take this kind of tactic).

How are you so sure he's town? You seem pretty certain, throwing around phrases like "100% a townie" and all.

I think he tries to help me but... he's just doing it wrong

And now the question is why. Because you're buddies irl? Because he feels sorry for you? Because you're both scum?

You seem to have a pretty good hold on his vote.

[vampko]

It's not a very high chance though.

So, since no one is defending Claymore in teh least bit, that leaves us with a 60% he's townie, and a 40% he's mafia and they don't want to be associated with him. Most likely he's a townie, but considering how little he followed the last will of his neighbor in the last game, him doing something that the mafia didn't condone, isn't all that unlikely. I'd like to think they'd try harder to hold onto one of their own, but the mafia are relentless.

Xeras is also poking around quite a bit. No one's really defended him either. For him, it's about the same, but for different reasons. The Mafia know how talented Xeras is, and are assured that he can get the heat off himself just fine without their help.

Either way, the both of them are too hard to pinpoint exactly, so,
UNVOTE
VOTE SHIZ

DarkClaymore - 3 (Necrofantasia, DisgaeaBlitz, Quillbell)
Aphrah - 1 (Ubiquitor)
Lopez - 1 (Aphrah)
Xeras - 2 (JerichoDeath, Nazou)
JerichoDeath - 1 (Lopez)
Ubiquitor - 1 (Shizuka)
Necrofantasia - 3 (Xeras, GameXtra, DarkClaymore)
Shizuka - 1 (vampko)

More often than not, Shiz is mafia for some reason, so this is as good a lead as any right now.

[darkclaymore]

And now the question is why. Because you're buddies irl? Because he feels sorry for you? Because you're both scum?

He might also be a scum who tries to defend me in order to make me look more suspicious. But I bet it's one of the first two

I believe he can answer that himself, though it takes him ages to write something

[GameXtra]

^I'm not slow RAGEE
:hmph:

I meant that I prefer going for someone which might even be a cop or a doctor - but might also be a mafia, the going after someone like darkclaymore which is 100% a townie(and 100% powerless, as of he wasn't he would dare to take this kind of tactic).

How are you so sure he's town? You seem pretty certain, throwing around phrases like "100% a townie" and all.

he wouldn't continue with his stupid(in my opinion) strategy if he had something to lose from it, and I kinda doubt he would have used such a strategy from the start. its like back then with lopez - after everyone started voting for him he stopped responding quite fast cuz he was afraid to die - he had something to lose from it. with darkclaymore - he actually want to be lynch - thinking that he is better off dead if its mean that a cop and a doctor won't die. I don't think he would play such a dangerous card in one of his first games - and generally. either that, or he's a mafia and he really wants to quit.

[Quillbell]

he wouldn't continue with his stupid(in my opinion) strategy if he had something to lose from it, and I kinda doubt he would have used such a strategy from the start. its like back then with lopez - after everyone started voting for him he stopped responding quite fast cuz he was afraid to die - he had something to lose from it. with darkclaymore - he actually want to be lynch - thinking that he is better off dead if its mean that a cop and a doctor won't die. I don't think he would play such a dangerous card in one of his first games - and generally. either that, or he's a mafia and he really wants to quit.

He could always be playing the pity card. And you know what? If he doesn't care if he gets lynched, neither do I.