Mafia 8: Imperishable Night-Share How You Should Have Won

[darkclaymore]

As for Jericho and Ubi, I agree with Sj how both are active without really giving too much. I think that at some point we should consider putting stress on them in order extract information and force them to do something.

I don't think that I can receive stress like that. Especially given that I'm town.

All you have to do is show your opinion more and not play like some SK. This kind of thing can get you killed by the Vig. If you are indeed a townie, you don't want the Vig to waste a kill on someone innocent, right? Not that you'd want to be the Vig's target with any other role, but as a townie you should want that even less.

[bloodyaftertaste]

As for Jericho and Ubi, I agree with Sj how both are active without really giving too much. I think that at some point we should consider putting stress on them in order extract information and force them to do something.

This is what I was trying to explain to vampko earlier about going over the lurkers and he kept saying people have lives. Well that might be what you are going through vampko, but you are not on my list of lurkers. It doesn't take much to stop in and be like oh hey, i'm here and i'm confused. But it's different to stop by and not say much on their thoughts of the game, but still be here. That's what I mean by lurkers. Not just that they are posting much.

So what the hell

UNVOTE
VOTE: JerichoDeath

darkclaymore - 1 (Empty Overture)
vampko - 4 (SjSharks182, GameXtra, Benu Sama, Quill)
JerichoDeath - 3 (Aphrah, Xeras, bloo)
Xeras - 1 (JerichoDeath)
SjSharks182 - 1 (adtl_03)
lopez - 1 (spoonthehune)

[darkclaymore]

How about semi-stress?
Let's make a tie.
This way we can both put some stress on Jericho for "lurking" of sorts and keep targeting Vampko for being suspicious.

Vote: JerichoDeath

darkclaymore - 1 (Empty Overture)
vampko - 4 (SjSharks182, GameXtra, Benu Sama, Quill)
JerichoDeath - 4 (Aphrah, Xeras, bloo, DarkClaymore)
Xeras - 1 (JerichoDeath)
SjSharks182 - 1 (adtl_03)
lopez - 1 (spoonthehune)

[bloodyaftertaste]

I'm just wondering about people like Ubi, Lopez and vampko who are still holding off their votes. Last day people!

[darkclaymore]

I'm just wondering about people like Ubi, Lopez and vampko who are still holding off their votes. Last day people!

I personally dislike voting unless I'm sure my vote means something at the time. I personally don't like people voting randomly without any wagon or whatsoever. Just makes me feel like they are desperately trying to avoid accustions such as "you are useless because you didn't vote".

[bloodyaftertaste]

I'm not saying you are useless, but it's part of the game. Sometimes it can help us lynch the right person or it can tell us something. Being too timid and afraid I feel is bad for the mafia. Withstanding your vote to see how it plays out can be a trait for mafia.

[darkclaymore]

BTW, Necro. You should edit the first post. Especially delete stuff like

Please note Claymore is currently in the throes of a hissy fit and may or may not be posting for a while.

Claymore (once he comes back)

[JerichoDeath]

As for Jericho and Ubi, I agree with Sj how both are active without really giving too much. I think that at some point we should consider putting stress on them in order extract information and force them to do something.

I don't think that I can receive stress like that. Especially given that I'm town.

All you have to do is show your opinion more and not play like some SK. This kind of thing can get you killed by the Vig. If you are indeed a townie, you don't want the Vig to waste a kill on someone innocent, right? Not that you'd want to be the Vig's target with any other role, but as a townie you should want that even less.

No, it's the above votes that are pointless. I can't be stressed like that. Voting me is only more anti-town behavior and will gain you nothing. Nor will any information come from such actions.

[vampko]

I'm just wondering about people like Ubi, Lopez and vampko who are still holding off their votes. Last day people!

Tomorrow's the last day actually...

Even though no lynch is impossible, I can't vote for someone when I don't know at least 62.34% for sure that they are villains. it's just not worth risking to kill someone needlessly.

I won't stop others from voting, because it's inevitable that you people will vote. I somewhat think that it would be better if we really took off all our votes and let Random chance try it's hand at things. We would at least have a 20% chance to take out a villain. And it wouldn't hurt the relations of the town if it were a misfire, because it was by chance that an innocent person got taken out.

But, there are those who work in the background to make sure this doesn't happen, so we likely won't see this happen. If only there were some way for us all to live, and not be trying to take control of everything...

[darkclaymore]

No, it's the above votes that are pointless. I can't be stressed like that. Voting me is only more anti-town behavior and will gain you nothing. Nor will any information come from such actions.

If you choose to not defend yourself against the votes then it's your choice. I don't think voting for, what called by others, "lurkers" is anti-town in any way. Furthermore, if we have already started ties, how about making more of them? The more people we put in dangerous situation, the higher are chances something will happen.

[JerichoDeath]

No, it's the above votes that are pointless. I can't be stressed like that. Voting me is only more anti-town behavior and will gain you nothing. Nor will any information come from such actions.

If you choose to not defend yourself against the votes then it's your choice. I don't think voting for, what called by others, "lurkers" is anti-town in any way. Furthermore, if we have already started ties, how about making more of them? The more people we put in dangerous situation, the higher are chances something will happen.

Voting for lurkers is pointless as well. People who do not post are just as likely to be town as mafia. You might as well just do the random wheel turn on everyone.

Note that I'm not defending myself as a Lurker, for I am not one. I have opportunities to post sometimes, and if I see a reason to post, then I do so. However, more often than not, I do not have those opportunities. Also, voting me is anti-town because I am town, not because you erroneously refer to me as a lurker. The accusation pisses me off a little bit, and I refuse to play along with it.

One more thing, by not defending myself I increase the chances that I will be lynched, thus flipping town. I would suggest that anyone who does not want suspicions put upon them to not vote for me.

[Necrofantasia]

Hey Claymore, I edited the OP so it now shows you as being fully active.

[darkclaymore]

No, it's the above votes that are pointless. I can't be stressed like that. Voting me is only more anti-town behavior and will gain you nothing. Nor will any information come from such actions.

If you choose to not defend yourself against the votes then it's your choice. I don't think voting for, what called by others, "lurkers" is anti-town in any way. Furthermore, if we have already started ties, how about making more of them? The more people we put in dangerous situation, the higher are chances something will happen.

Voting for lurkers is pointless as well. People who do not post are just as likely to be town as mafia. You might as well just do the random wheel turn on everyone.

Note that I'm not defending myself as a Lurker, for I am not one. I have opportunities to post sometimes, and if I see a reason to post, then I do so. However, more often than not, I do not have those opportunities. Also, voting me is anti-town because I am town, not because you erroneously refer to me as a lurker. The accusation pisses me off a little bit, and I refuse to play along with it.

One more thing, by not defending myself I increase the chances that I will be lynched, thus flipping town. I would suggest that anyone who does not want suspicions put upon them to not vote for me.

Everything you say, including how you play, might very well be mafia style as much as town. Saying things like "don't vote me because I'm town and I'm not defending myself" is similar to what I attempted last time (only my reason was being vanilla). Honestly, at some point I realized it won't work in my favor so then I wanted to make my death a big commotion so that it'll bear more information for latter days (that sadly didn't work as well I guess even though my initial assumptions were accurate).

Unless we vote people and put them in danger, we pretty much doing nothing. Let's say you are a mafia. You see a player saying "Jericho is kinda suspicious. But I think Vampko is more suspicious. Vote: Vampko". What's your reaction? Something like "LOL what an idiot. Suspecting me but voting someone else who's town. I have nothing to be afraid of ". It's totally different from when people actually vote you and then you start thinking about whatever you should or shouldn't defend yourself.

Encouraging people to not vote is pretty anti-town IMO.

Hey Claymore, I edited the OP so it now shows you as being fully active.

[JerichoDeath]

Everything you say, including how you play, might very well be mafia style as much as town. Saying things like "don't vote me because I'm town and I'm not defending myself" is similar to what I attempted last time (only my reason was being vanilla). Honestly, at some point I realized it won't work in my favor so then I wanted to make my death a big commotion so that it'll bear more information for latter days (that sadly didn't work as well I guess even though my initial assumptions were accurate).

Unless we vote people and put them in danger, we pretty much doing nothing. Let's say you are a mafia. You see a player saying "Jericho is kinda suspicious. But I think Vampko is more suspicious. Vote: Vampko". What's your reaction? Something like "LOL what an idiot. Suspecting me but voting someone else who's town. I have nothing to be afraid of ". It's totally different from when people actually vote you and then you start thinking about whatever you should or shouldn't defend yourself.

Encouraging people to not vote is pretty anti-town IMO.

That's an interesting reaction considering you're saying that you were town when you used that strategy. Are you really town this time?

That is a pointless sentiment as well. I don't know if Vampko is town or not.

If I am trying to steer people clear of voting for someone who is town, then I am being pro-town.

If I am providing a objective point of view, then that is pro-town behavior as well, as I am avoiding the confusion that could be caused by rashly accusing others with no basis for my accusations.
... you know, like you're doing now.

[PringlesXD]

I am finally back. You know, this argument is making both of you quite suspicious.