Mafia General Discussion

[JerichoDeath]

i deicded i want to make my very own mafia game because i love it so much
if 5.5 people say yes then i will add myself to the oofical list.

Saw that coming from a mile away.

SJX, stop trolling already.

Its hard to respond since I jeep dying on the forums on and off, but now its all good. Wanna start trading pms or something?

Does that confirm the alt status of 4Guy-san, or was it coincidence?

[ShadowJetX]

Y U NO JOIN MIZU'S GAME?

My time online was so botchy at the time of sign ups that it would have killed any fun I could have had.

Do you think I could replace someone?

[darkclaymore]

i deicded i want to make my very own mafia game because i love it so much
if 5.5 people say yes then i will add myself to the oofical list.

Saw that coming from a mile away.

SJX, stop trolling already.

Its hard to respond since I jeep dying on the forums on and off, but now its all good. Wanna start trading pms or something?

Fine by me. You could also create a QT if you want, or add me on msn (IIRC you said you have it). It should be maximborin@walla.com after I changed it a few months ago. If doesn't work, then tell me yours and I'll add you.

EDIT: NVM. Forgot the MSN appears on the profile... Added you.

[MountainFresh]

Oh goodness. Can someone explain to me what all of this is about? I've seen maybe 2 or 3 topics about mafia, and I have absolutely no idea what the topics are about. Don't mean to be Mr. Noob or something like that, but I seriously dunno what this topic is for/about.

[MizuMikomi]

Oh goodness. Can someone explain to me what all of this is about? I've seen maybe 2 or 3 topics about mafia, and I have absolutely no idea what the topics are about. Don't mean to be Mr. Noob or something like that, but I seriously dunno what this topic is for/about.

Mafia is a forum game that a lot of us enjoy playing.

But yeah... hmmm, maybe someone else would explain it better...
I suck at explanations. ^^;

[MizuMikomi]

Question?
Anyone mind if I take the 29th game slot?
I think the 28th would still be a bit too early right now, so yeah. ^^;

I can be put on standby if I can't make it, but I am already working on my next game.
The theme is pretty enjoyable for me, since it's something I hold near and dear, I'll probably get more ideas after next week as well ~<3

So much teasing. xD

18) ShadowJetX
19) Redhorse
20) DarkClaymore
21) vampko
22) raspberrylicious
23) PringlesXD
24) JerichoDeath
25) Empty Overture
26) TheForeignGamer
27) kotakoni
28)
29) MizuMikomi

That is... if no one minds. =P

[darkclaymore]

Oh goodness. Can someone explain to me what all of this is about? I've seen maybe 2 or 3 topics about mafia, and I have absolutely no idea what the topics are about. Don't mean to be Mr. Noob or something like that, but I seriously dunno what this topic is for/about.

Err... if you were interested, why not peek into the mafia game thread and see what it's about?

Anyway, yeah. It's a great forum game.
You can read about it in general here: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Newbie_Guide

Question?
Anyone mind if I take the 29th game slot?
I think the 28th would still be a bit too early right now, so yeah. ^^;

lolwut
Oh, well. Why not?



On an unrelated note. I was trying to come up with an anti-lurkers rule/mechanic. Three mechanics I thought about are:

Hated++ - Based on the Hated modifier which reduces the number of votes needed to QL the player. After every Day phase, the player with the lowest post count (and didn't make at least 6 posts that phase) will automatically receive the "Hated" modifier from the GM and will become easier to lynch. Can also be stacked and receive Hated+, Hated++. Hated++++++++++++ and so on as the player keeps lurking every day.

Curse Voting - Another voting mechanic, in addition to the lynch votes. Players will be able to vote for a player (should be a lurker) to be "Cursed". If Cursed twice, the player is auto-killed in addition to the regular lynch.

Lurker Curse - A combination of the two above. Instead of becoming "Hated", the player with the lowest post count will become "Cursed" by the end of every Day phase. If Cursed twice - DEAD END.


Opinions? Suggestions?

[MizuMikomi]

Question?
Anyone mind if I take the 29th game slot?
I think the 28th would still be a bit too early right now, so yeah. ^^;

lolwut
Oh, well. Why not?

IRL circumstances might come up a lot within the next few months; which is likely the frame between now and then, so I just want as much time as possible. ^^;

[JerichoDeath]

Question?
Anyone mind if I take the 29th game slot?
I think the 28th would still be a bit too early right now, so yeah. ^^;

lolwut
Oh, well. Why not?

IRL circumstances might come up a lot within the next few months; which is likely the frame between now and then, so I just want as much time as possible. ^^;

Why don't you just push it back if you need more time?

Mechanics

To be honest, I don't like any of those. Some people simply don't have any time in their days, and the way you do your phases, they'll have even less time to post.

[darkclaymore]

Mechanics

To be honest, I don't like any of those. Some people simply don't have any time in their days, and the way you do your phases, they'll have even less time to post.

And SOME people have the time but don't post anyway. Which are the ones I really hate and the ones who should be dealt with. Hence why one of the mechanics had "voting", to ensure that players like Lopez won't receive punishment for mere lack of time.

Any better ideas?

[JerichoDeath]

And SOME people have the time but don't post anyway. Which are the ones I really hate and the ones who should be dealt with. Hence why one of the mechanics had "voting", to ensure that players like Lopez won't receive punishment for mere lack of time.

Any better ideas?

Why should I have any? I think that you're going overboard with it, to be honest. There's no reason for me to respond in kind here, and a lack of a response doesn't lend any credence to your theory that such players need these drastic measures to keep them in line. We don't need a bigger punishment system; The game is all about having fun! It's not a punishment game, or something.

If I have time, and I don't want to come onto a game because it's being annoying, then I won't post, dammit.

You can do what you want with your game, obviously, but I won't be using these. I see them as unfair to the players of both sides, most of the time.

[darkclaymore]

And SOME people have the time but don't post anyway. Which are the ones I really hate and the ones who should be dealt with. Hence why one of the mechanics had "voting", to ensure that players like Lopez won't receive punishment for mere lack of time.

Any better ideas?

Why should I have any? I think that you're going overboard with it, to be honest. There's no reason for me to respond in kind here, and a lack of a response doesn't lend any credence to your theory that such players need these drastic measures to keep them in line. We don't need a bigger punishment system; The game is all about having fun! It's not a punishment game, or something.

If I have time, and I don't want to come onto a game because it's being annoying, then I won't post, dammit.

You can do what you want with your game, obviously, but I won't be using these. I see them as unfair to the players of both sides, most of the time.

The real unfair thing is that lurkers don't do shit and survive until endgame, while the rest are getting killed off while trying to actually do something. As things are now, it's as if the active players are being punished (early death) for their activity, whereas lurkers are getting a prize (long life) for their lurking.

I think it's only natural to attempt balance this, as it doesn't make sense. Of course, the easiest solution is to not let lurkers play at all, but that might be seen as a form of dictatorship on the mod's side.

[Luke Triton]

You can do what you want with your game, obviously, but I won't be using these. I see them as unfair to the players of both sides, most of the time.

Pretty sure he's just asking what you guys think of his idea and whether you have any. Not whether you want to use it yourself....

@Claymore:
I think if people don't have time to play, then they shouldn't sign up to play. I mean, why say you will play if you either don't care enough to post/try or you will not be here? It just doesn't make sense.
The hated idea sounds solid to me, it's a motivator to do something without actually going and modkilling the person.
I really think the best thing to do is switch out, though. Like those other ideas kill players off, and that hurts the team they were on. When people have no time or get bored with the game, they should switch with someone and just not play. It holds everyone up when they say they'll play and then don't.

edit, ninja'd

The real unfair thing is that lurkers don't do shit and survive until endgame, while the rest are getting killed off while trying to actually do something. As things are now, it's as if the active players are being punished (early death) for their activity, whereas lurkers are getting a prize (long life) for their lurking.

THIS. IT IS SO UNFAIR. IT IS EVEN HAPPENING WITH MIZU'S GAME TO AN EXTENT, AND IT SUCKS.
People who actually wanna play get killed off first, strategically, and not many people left actually do anything.
So who should we punish here? Players or lurkers? Because so far, it's players and that ain't right, dudes.

You know what's also bad? When people don't read the thread and then randomly vote. YOU HAVE TO READ THE THREAD TO PLAY THE GAME, DUH!

[darkclaymore]

I think if people don't have time to play, then they shouldn't sign up to play. I mean, why say you will play if you either don't care enough to post/try or you will not be here? It just doesn't make sense.

That's obviously the best. But... how many lurkers out there actually agree to do that? Seen maybe one or two in my life so far. They just keep signing up for god knows what reason.

The real unfair thing is that lurkers don't do shit and survive until endgame, while the rest are getting killed off while trying to actually do something. As things are now, it's as if the active players are being punished (early death) for their activity, whereas lurkers are getting a prize (long life) for their lurking.

THIS. IT IS SO UNFAIR. IT IS EVEN HAPPENING WITH MIZU'S GAME TO AN EXTENT, AND IT SUCKS.

It.. HAPPENS EVERY GAME.

EDIT:

You know what's also bad? When people don't read the thread and then randomly vote. YOU HAVE TO READ THE THREAD TO PLAY THE GAME, DUH!

It's usually those same lurkers that do this tbh.

[JerichoDeath]

I think if people don't have time to play, then they shouldn't sign up to play. I mean, why say you will play if you either don't care enough to post/try or you will not be here? It just doesn't make sense.

That's obviously the best. But... how many lurkers out there actually agree to do that? Seen maybe one or two in my life so far. They just keep signing up for god knows what reason.

That wasn't a realistic question. Who can predict the future?

The real unfair thing is that lurkers don't do shit and survive until endgame, while the rest are getting killed off while trying to actually do something. As things are now, it's as if the active players are being punished (early death) for their activity, whereas lurkers are getting a prize (long life) for their lurking.

The strategy of greater idiocy is the "Policy Lynch" BS that is mostly used against "lurkers", even in the beginning.