Mafia XVIII - Reverse Mafia [Mafia + Ubiquitor WINS]

[vampko]

Suuuuch a derp town game
Good play mafia keeping the town at their derpiest

[Prinapocalypse]

http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/RRFDkvVt522gT

Aha! I knew Claymore wasn't psychic.

[darkclaymore]

I have a question though. Was Claymore's scum read on me legit or did he already know I was mafia since he was the co-host?

I knew all the roles, as I made some of them, but not who got what role. So yeah, it was legit. I was perhaps playing for teh lulz, but I did try to catch scum and clear town. And damn, glad I removed Shizuka from my town reads a few posts after I added him there. Almost made a mistake.

In game flips had the reverse effect. End game roles did not.

To all future Mods... please never do this again...

Yeah, I just really wanted to do this, and I agree it was pretty bad. And I also agree I was a pretty shitty mod. I'll also add I don't like how Mafia Godfather gets Bullet Proof and Innocent reads, which is why I'll never give those to the god father.

Anyways, I was just typing up a full data reveal, but my computer glitched for some reason and that whole POST WAS ERASED. So I said fuck it I'll have it up tomorrow since I have to go to bed now.

But here's all the QT's just for kicks:

http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/RRFDkvVt522gT

http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/5V3A3KekmVcV

http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/U5qw675JqwFH

http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/EazMNxiAfAZU

http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/MAZWfQ8GxBq

Ah lol. So you actually posted in our QT after I already concluded you'll never post there and lost the link anyways?


Mafia QT:

I'm thinking Claymore is more dangerous than Xeras, so getting rid of him is best imo.

Oh, and it should be obvious, but BLOCK. CLAYMORE.

Just like I expected

My night action was apparently unsuccessful, but Claymore said he was role blocked still. Interesting stuff.

@SJX: I didn't like how you made up a specific fakeclaim for Shizuka. Part of being a mafia is to know how to fakeclaim. Kinda broken that you did the work for him. He didn't really have a need to lie as Ubi didn't have a chance to escape from his grasp either way.
And you never gave the epic safeclaims I suggested...!



Lovers QT

As such, until Claymore is proven to 8e a fraud, he is capa8le of aiding town gr8ly and thus merits doctor protection.

@Ubi: You thought I was likely lying? Or just mentioned the possibility due to knowing my not-so-trusty playstyle?


Masonizer QT

I'm not to sure if Sutton, Ubi or Prina is mafia..

Goddamit Lopez! If you were more active - you'd be an awfully dangerous player


For the lost children

nope.avi
Not planning on posting here.

> Says won't post
> Posts enough to cover nearly 40% of the QT

[Empty Overture]

For the lost children

nope.avi
Not planning on posting here.

> Says won't post
> Posts enough to cover nearly 40% of the QT

I got bored shitless. It's not my fault that I'm the only person that ever posts in QTs >_>

[MizuMikomi]

I'll also add I don't like how Mafia Godfather gets Bullet Proof and Innocent reads, which is why I'll never give those to the god father.

Wait... wait... wait.
What? WHAT!?

Removing one of the ONLY defenses the mafia has of not being trampled by a possibly extremely overpowered town? Especially in a fucking bastard game?

Pardon me... but what the fuck?

[Empty Overture]

My god, me calling him a shithost was just because of Sour Grapes, but holy hell. I think he just proved me right with that statement.

[darkclaymore]

I'll also add I don't like how Mafia Godfather gets Bullet Proof and Innocent reads, which is why I'll never give those to the god father.

Wait... wait... wait.
What? WHAT!?

Removing one of the ONLY defenses the mafia has of not being trampled by a possibly extremely overpowered town? Especially in a fucking bastard game?

Pardon me... but what the fuck?

The Mentor role was an even better role than BP, while being more unique and creative.
If mafia were to had a BP in addition then gawd.

Some of the balance discussion can be found in the first QT he posted:
http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/RRFDkvVt522gT

You can simply see how the setup evolved over time

[Empty Overture]

Oh, no no. I understand it not being in this game, but SJX said he'd NEVER have it. Imagine he runs a Vanilla game? That'd be like... FUCK BALANCE. YOU DIE NOW, MAFIA!

[darkclaymore]

Oh, no no. I understand it not being in this game, but SJX said he'd NEVER have it. Imagine he runs a Vanilla game? That'd be like... FUCK BALANCE. YOU DIE NOW, MAFIA!

As long as town doesn't have Cop nor Vig, BP nor GF are really needed. And even if town does, it can be balanced with totally different roles. Let's say Role Cop vs. Cop and Roleblocker vs. Vig.

In the very basic 9-players setup in MafiaScum, you have 7 VTs, out of which 2 are PRs randomly chosen from the following list: Cop, Doc, Jailer or just another VT. The mafia got 2 members out of which one is Goon and the other is Rolecop.

It is quite likely for town to have a Cop in this setup, yet there's no GF for the mafia. However, this 'Vanilla' (more accurately 'Normal') setup is considered balanced and is widely used there.

[Redhorse]

Well, I thought the game was alright and it was at least pretty creative. It was kind of boring when town stopped doing anything though.
Actions list?
And yeah, lopez + activity would be interesting to see ~

@Mizu: I either have to put my game off or have sign ups last a week to a week and a half. Thoughts?

[ShadowJetX]

Well, I thought the game was alright and it was at least pretty creative. It was kind of boring when town stopped doing anything though.
Actions list?
And yeah, lopez + activity would be interesting to see ~

@Mizu: I either have to put my game off or have sign ups last a week to a week and a half. Thoughts?

It was when I was doing the action that my computer got all glitchy and decided for itself that everyone would be better off not knowing. You won't get to see till after work.

[TheForeignGamer]

I didn't like this game. At all. I'm sorry. :/ As the game wore on, I was practically praying that mafia would NK me and put me out of my misery.

@Red: I don't mind it. Just let me know when signups start cause I might forget.

[vampko]

For the lost children

nope.avi
Not planning on posting here.

> Says won't post
> Posts enough to cover nearly 40% of the QT

I got bored shitless. It's not my fault that I'm the only person that ever posts in QTs >_>

YAY

Your game makes no sense xD

I wanna post SOOOO bad and tell them off for whining about Kota. Because ANY post no matter the content can be used to try and figure things out. Now, if someone is actually not posting at all, that can make things impossible to figure out.

Don leave me all ronery...

sadface....

IT"S A PERSON!

How do we know if someone is mafia?

I'm really confused since my flip was supposed to be mafia ._.

So what was the point of my role? Was it just a total fabrication?

I don't get it

I wonder how long it will take town to realize that they've been killing off the town?

I hope SOMEONE brings it up.

It's been glaringly obvious since the beginning. I tried to get something on it before I was axed.

>.>


ANYWAY

AGAIN

what was the point of my role? I didn't even flip like mafia...was it all just a lie?

[darkclaymore]

@Mizu: I either have to put my game off or have sign ups last a week to a week and a half. Thoughts?

For what reason?
Being busy in the near week? Or not finishing planning your game yet?
If it's the former, then just make the signups a bit long (week is the more or less norm here anyway). If it's the latter... It depends on whatever or not you'll have to rush in order to complete it. If you will, then there might be holes in your setup. Not recommended. Better to delay it altogether. If it's just something small then just open signups.

ANYWAY

AGAIN

what was the point of my role? I didn't even flip like mafia...was it all just a lie?

You did. Or were supposed to at least... until SJX did random flips or something.

[kotakoni]

I spent most of my time jailing Shizuka, but the last time I jailed Shizuka, my target was changed.

EDIT: wait so both of my guesses of shizuka and prin being mafia were right. i should vote more often