Mugen Souls (PS3)

[Rednal]

Oh, I sure hope they'll keep it in, too. ^^ It's just... if they can't keep it without an AO rating or incredibly bad publicity... I want them to know that I'm okay with that. ^^;

[LAMV]

I also feel better after reading Houk's post.

[Obake]

So what now, Coco? We called that like 100 pages ago.

Anyway, we finally know there's a massage minigame. I don't really care either way, prior statements made for amusement notwithstanding. For the record, I'd also be okay with removing the minigame if strictly necessary. I'd just say be careful with that sort of thing. Going by what Houk said it shouldn't be a problem.

The battles looked fun as hell, makes me want the game more.

Question for Rednal (or anyone smarter than me that figured it out): What was ShuShu about to say in the "A Real Girl" comic? 'A ga-'???

[PringlesXD]

So what now, Coco? We called that like 100 pages ago.

If the game will be picked up by NISA, it'll only be announced after the game's released, like always. ;3

[Rednal]

It's not so much "smart" as "knowing random trivia and comedy lines". Intelligence =/= Knowledge.

[Obake]

Awww, I was only trying to bait her into scolding me. I'm sorry Coco *hugs* You're so cute

It's not so much "smart" as "knowing random trivia and comedy lines". Intelligence =/= Knowledge.

What I meant, but not what I said. Like many people, I have a tendency to erroneously use the former to mean the latter.

Still curious.

[Daverost]

an AO rating (which is a death sentence for any game)

I know that's the popular theory around the industry, but in all fairness, the only difference between AO and M is one year in the purchaser's age and there haven't been enough AO games made to really judge whether or not it really does mean that the game isn't going to sell.

Honestly, the only ones that kept an AO rating were porn games on PC (and CD-i, in one odd little case). Very few console games have ever held the AO rating and they never held it permanently. They're also all games that I knew the title of, so it's not like they were niche games that slipped under the radar. There really just isn't enough to judge by.

But hey, I don't do the marketing and PR.

Consumer response to AO is nothing more than knee-jerk at best and blatant ignorance at worst.

[Obake]

an AO rating (which is a death sentence for any game)

I know that's the popular theory around the industry, but in all fairness, the only difference between AO and M is one year in the purchaser's age and there haven't been enough AO games made to really judge whether or not it really does mean that the game isn't going to sell.

Honestly, the only ones that kept an AO rating were porn games on PC (and CD-i, in one odd little case). Very few console games have ever held the AO rating and they never held it permanently. They're also all games that I knew the title of, so it's not like they were niche games that slipped under the radar. There really just isn't enough to judge by.

But hey, I don't do the marketing and PR.

Consumer response to AO is nothing more than knee-jerk at best and blatant ignorance at worst.

I agree, but the public at large is extremely good at knee jerk reactions and blatant ignorance. Release something as AO and most people will just assume its a porn game, or close enough.

In theory its just 1 year, but it isn't the theory that's important.

[Rednal]

I think it's also that certain retailers may refuse to stock AO games (fear of tarnishing their image), so... yeah. Fair or not, that's how it seems to be. ^^;

[Rednal]

Awww, I was only trying to bait her into scolding me. I'm sorry Coco *hugs* You're so cute

[Kiyo]

...and why would this game be rated AO?

[Daverost]

I think it's also that certain retailers may refuse to stock AO games (fear of tarnishing their image), so... yeah. Fair or not, that's how it seems to be. ^^;

Hmm... That's true. I'm so used to online retailers and dedicated game shops that I failed to consider that one.

There was a GameFAQs poll relevant to that one not too long ago.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4600

Depending on accuracy (probably not very just given the sample size, but GameFAQs gamers are the types you'd expect to buy NISA releases more than anyone else), it's hard to say how it would really affect sales of a game like this. Pretty sure Gamestop would carry AO, wouldn't they?

Either way, I know no one's going to budge on it and I don't blame them. It's just one of those things for me. People just get too wound up over it. Maybe the ESRB should consider rebranding that rating so it hurt game companies less. Instead of "Adult Only" maybe go with something less intimidating. "Adult" will never have a good ring to it in the entertainment industry and anything with the rating was doomed from the start.

[Chaoschao222]

but GameFAQs gamers are the types you'd expect to buy NISA releases more than anyone else

Wait, why is this?

[Daverost]

but GameFAQs gamers are the types you'd expect to buy NISA releases more than anyone else

Wait, why is this?

Because they're the dedicated gamers that buy niche JRPG titles rather than the casuals who don't visit game websites and generally buy from non-specialized brick-and-mortar retailers.

Any given game or character contest has a solid number of people who are aware of titles like Disgaea.

[shymel94]

If this game was to get an Adults Only rating, Sony wouldn't even allow it to come out here.