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Re: NISA Localizing Anime

Postby magusgs » Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:15 pm

soundmonkey44 wrote:I find it healthier just to idolize these characters rahter then lustfully obsess over them. But thats just me. :lol:

Fair enough. But which is worse: lusting over fictional girls, or getting off on real girls being exploited in your average porno? Getting off on real girls being exploited, or having casual sex that puts you both at risk? Casual sex, or hiring a prostitute? People (particularly males) have sexual urges. I'd argue that relieving them on fictional characters is one of the best ways to diffuse those urges, next to having a spouse (or even in addition to).
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Re: NISA Localizing Anime

Postby soundmonkey44 » Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:20 pm

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soundmonkey44 wrote:I find it healthier just to idolize these characters rahter then lustfully obsess over them. But thats just me. :lol:

Fair enough. But which is worse: lusting over fictional girls, or getting off on real girls being exploited for money? Getting off on real girls being exploited, or having casual sex that puts you both at risk? Casual sex, or hiring a prostitute? People (particularly males) have sexual urges. I'd argue that relieving them on fictional characters is one of the best ways to diffuse those urges, next to having a spouse (or even in addition to).



Both are fairly bad (except having a spouse/GF thats good)...but your right....hiring a call girl would be worse then watching a hentai.....but both are rather sad situations IMPO...wich is why I don't do either...as for 'Urges" when those arise, do what I do...Play a violent video game...OR EXERCISE!!! HAHA...I'm such a goody goody...I'm evil! (Bet I could beat rasbyrl as the netherworlds #1 delinquient! lol!) :lol:
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Re: NISA Localizing Anime

Postby magusgs » Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:36 pm

Just a minor clarification: by "getting off on real girls being exploited for money", I meant looking at porn (the live action variety). Reading it now, I realize I was unclear on that.
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Re: NISA Localizing Anime

Postby soundmonkey44 » Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:50 pm

magusgs wrote:Just a minor clarification: by "getting off on real girls being exploited for money", I meant looking at porn (the live action variety). Reading it now, I realize I was unclear on that.


Its all cool man, either way though I would say its kind of sad IMPO....but at least the one you meant is safer lol. But I don't partake in things such as that, because well...to cheesily quote Adell "Thats just not my style!"


But...TO FINALLY GET BACK ON TOPIC! When do you think NISA will give us more Info On these titles!???
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Re: NISA Localizing Anime

Postby odinfan » Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:23 pm

You know Mags, not as a personal attack or anything, but your elitist attitude really begins to shine through when you've simply called me out, questioning my activities along with everyone else.

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You're suggesting that half the users here are hardcore eroge players (which he and I both are). I find that assumption rather ridiculous.

Consider the gradations of ecchi in gaming (you did say play after all):
light fanservice (Ar Tonelico) < heavy fanservice (Kodomo no Jikan) < light 18+ visual novel (Kana) < ero-focused visual novel (Sengoku Rance) < fetish-focused visual novel (Hitomi: My Stepsister) < revolting fetish-focused visual novel (?!)

Most people here probably fall in the light fanservice category, if that. I'd place you in the light 18+ visual novel category (correct me if I'm wrong). There's still 3 categories above that. :P

Anyway...the point of this silly posturing is that Americans in general are pretty sensitive regarding sexual material in gaming. They offend easily. People like me and grgspunk...don't. We're tolerant of such things, even if they don't appeal to us, because we draw very strict boundaries between what is real, and what is fictional--something even the Supreme Court has failed to do thus far.


Now with your grading levels in mind, just because you've seemingly played the "worst" out there possible doesn't necessarily make you any more or less "hardcore", if you're assuming correctly(which you're not). I for one, have a set of standards coming from being influenced by great stories, so I simply don't play all of those sex romps which you seem to like(I realize you've played Kana, but from what I can tell you also like what most of G-Collections/Peach Princess puts out, which I would simply consider to be mostly sub-par or generic. I don't touch any of that).

So before you consider me in any category, know that you're far off if you think I'm as shallow as you are. I only limit myself to the proven VNs, not all the other filler crap you would consider "good":

Kanon
CLANNAD
Fate/Stay Night
Tsukihime
Kagetsu Tohya
Planetarian
Higurashi

Yes, that's IT. I don't go for anything else. Playing anything else AND calling me out doesn't make you an "elite" visual novel player, it just makes you look ignorant.

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Re: NISA Localizing Anime

Postby soundmonkey44 » Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:31 pm

umhmmm...CAN WE GET BACK ON TOPIC PLEASE!!! THIS ABOUT NISA BRINGING OVER TORADORA, PANDORA HEARTS, PERSONA & FOX DIETY!!!! PLEASE PEOPLE LETS TALK ABOUT THOSE AGAIN!!! :cry: :evil:
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Re: NISA Localizing Anime

Postby magusgs » Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:47 pm

Reply moved to the Soap Box derby topic in response to the heartfelt pleas: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=494&p=8303#p8303
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Re: NISA Localizing Anime

Postby Elysion Zero » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:09 pm

Wow. I missed a lot. Time for my one and a half cents.

Kodomo no Jikan is probably the one anime NISA could localize that would make me even consider buying an anime DVD again. The sheer level of boldness required to release it completely uncensored warrants respect whether I'd want to give it to NISA or not. Of course, the DVD would have to be sub only unless it'd be cheaper with both a sub and dub. It'd need all the original material included with nothing cut or edited. And I'd need a box of tissues ready and opened before I began watching. Just kidding. That's for the other Kodomo no Jikan, the one from 2000.

Anyway, the best kind of series to release on DVD are the ones with cut tv versions. Even if they get subbed, the DVDs will still offer something new, significant and worthwhile.

As for the 4 series NISA is bringing over, none of them strike me as something I must have. I haven't even felt the need to watch fansubs of them. Instead, I'm watching those old 80s and 90s movies on Comcast OnDemand. Those were the days, back when men were men and people working in media knew what men wanted. Hint: topless women and people being punched in the face. None of these offer much of either, but hopefully they'll at least break even for NISA.
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Re: NISA Localizing Anime

Postby soundmonkey44 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:43 pm

Zero...I highly doubt that NISA is reckless enough to bring over "THAT SERIES" (Thankfully!)

as for the ones they did get, again TORADORA & PANDORA HEARTS are both fairly good series,and will most likely do pretty well. as for other 2, I can't say since the Persona anime isn't as popular as the games, and I had never herd of the 4th one.

but yea, I really hope we get some more info on the titles they did liscense soon! :D
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Re: NISA Localizing Anime

Postby Elysion Zero » Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:07 pm

The fourth is about a fox that changes into a beautiful woman. And then into a man. And then into any one of the three multiple times over the course of the series. There's also a socially inept blue haired shrine maiden who seems to exist only to satisfy anime fans' shrine maiden fetish. The anime revolves around the gender shifting fox protecting a young man and his impressionable little brother from a bunch of monsters who want to eat them or something. I didn't get far enough into it to find out which gal the older main character takes as his love interest. I'll check wikipedia. Here's the link for the 4th series.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagaya_no_Oinari-sama.
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Re: NISA Localizing Anime

Postby Clephas » Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:07 pm

Except for Persona Trinity, those are all reasonably decent series. Though, Wagaya no Oinari-sama will probably suffer in the translation due to the sheer number of uniquely Shinto/Japanese ideas involved. Persona Trinity... to be blunt, it was a mediocre series. But then, Shin Megami Tensei's offshoots have yet to produce a decent anime.

Pandora Hearts is very good as fantasy series made in the last few years go, and Toradora was fairly memorable.
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Re: NISA Localizing Anime

Postby kingruler9999 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:32 pm

soundmonkey44 wrote:I agree hentai is amusing...oh don't get me wrong, I can see why anime characters are considered attractive, cause ficitonal characters in general are meant to perpetuate our dreams & fantasies...but looking at heavily erotic/explicit picutres of fictional characters does seem rather silly and somewhat sad to me...I mean, i myself have a few anime gals I find attracticve, but I would never sink low enough to look at hentai of them...I mean C'mon...yeah they are attractive, but they are not real...it doesn't matter how many times you pleasure yourself from their image, it ain't gonna make em real......I find it healthier just to idolize these characters rahter then lustfully obsess over them. But thats just me. :lol:


as for the person who suggested to love ru...sentai filmworks already brought that over subbed....I saw a copy at a FYE the other day, while I was browising their anime section.

also Rosario+Vampire I somewhat agree with...I think the manga is ALOT better, since it actually has balance between story, action, comedy ,romance, fanservice, etc....But I am curious as to how the characters would sound in english so if NISA Brought it over I would probably get he 1st season..witch was tollerable to watch...but personally I hate capu2 it was just another genaric ecchi jugfest...aside from the peppy opening, nothin about the 2nd season of rosario is any good...thats why i stick to the manga for that seires...alot better,alot more character development, actual story..and balance..yeah thats one series where the Manga PWNS the Anime hard! :D IMPO that is. :ugeek:


yeah i agree the manga of Rosario+Vampire is better to but i would like to see them with english voice acting, as for pandora hearts i find the series interesting myself
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Re: NISA Localizing Anime

Postby Mesarthim » Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:28 pm

Only found this out just now because of my absence on this forum. Out of the four I'm probably looking forward to Toradora! the most. I've seen it through fansubs already and I liked it.

I'm one of those that don't care whether or not there are English dubbing because of my low tolerance for some voice acting these days. But it wouldn't hurt to add that for those that do care.
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Re: NISA Localizing Anime

Postby soundmonkey44 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:44 pm

kingruler9999 wrote:
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also Rosario+Vampire I somewhat agree with...I think the manga is ALOT better, since it actually has balance between story, action, comedy ,romance, fanservice, etc....But I am curious as to how the characters would sound in english so if NISA Brought it over I would probably get he 1st season..witch was tollerable to watch...but personally I hate capu2 it was just another genaric ecchi jugfest...aside from the peppy opening, nothin about the 2nd season of rosario is any good...thats why i stick to the manga for that seires...alot better,alot more character development, actual story..and balance..yeah thats one series where the Manga PWNS the Anime hard! :D IMPO that is. :ugeek:


yeah i agree the manga of Rosario+Vampire is better to but i would like to see them with english voice acting, as for pandora hearts i find the series interesting myself




Glad that you agree with me, but your right, it would be nice to hear what the english voices for the girls would be, and I can kind of forgive the anime for being a genaric jugfest, since it was pretty much just made to promote the manga, so hey no harm no foul I guess...But I was still dissapointed with Capu2...it just seems wrong for a series with such an upbeat opening to have genaric jugfest ecchi content & tropes that outway the comedy aspect...it made me sad...but yea Aside from the OP , IMPO nothing about season 2 of the series was good...but I would deffinantly buy season one in english If NISA ever bought it over...cause even though its still not as good as the manga, it was decently funny.

BOT: I am really hoping Toradora & Pandora Hearts get dubs since they are the 2 biggest titles of the bunch! :D
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Re: NISA Localizing Anime

Postby lopez » Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:41 pm

Hypothetically,

what happens if this venture flops? will it be a major drain on NISA?
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