Mirai wrote:I don't know weather you have played SDR2 and read DR0 or not so I won't reference anything from them, but originally before those two sources came out DR1's ending was left up to the player's imagination but the majority of Dangan Ronpa players didn't like that and demanded to know what really happened to the outside world hence it has now been told.
That's usually the way, isn't it? You can really tell this story wasn't meant to actually expand, and though DR2 came out as good as it did I sincerely can't think of how this story can keep from plummeting in quality when it gets to Ultra Dangan Ronpa 4 Turbo (sounds like a title they might use).
I'd be nearly awed if they did manage it, though considering they apparently made a Gaiden game about shooting Monokumas...eh...
Still, I do appreciate DR2 for what it is and how it plays with DR1 vets' expectations while subverting sequel tropes. It's also fun and has another great cast.
Mirai wrote:1- She was amazing at her talent just read DRIF and DR0 and that's more than enough.
Well it's even stated in the game. Damn was she something! It's also kind of sad that, if you do her...uh...Dangan Link (the report card events) she seems like she genuinely starts to have a change of heart almost.
I'll check out those sources eventually, though.
Wait, what's "DRIF"?
Mirai wrote:2- I don't know why people thought of it this way because Junko didn't mean that the outside air was literally full of poisonous gas. What she meant was that the world was intoxicated with despair.
No, I just beat it a few hours ago and she definitely makes a special mention of the air purifier when she says how toxic the air is outside. It's clearly a bluff/manipulation ploy from her to keep them in the school.
Though considering how she talked about the outside world even aside from the Tragedy it seemed she thought it was toxic in that way, too
Mirai wrote:3- The air purifier in the physics lab was creating oxygen so the students could live inside as all the doors and windows were all air-tightly sealed.
Yeah I know, I just meant that its existence alludes to the level of technology available to the mastermind as the one in control of Hope's Peak. Also that a "purifier" only purifies, not "creates oxygen" miraculously. Hope's Peak's student body was beyond intelligent, and for Junko to come out on top until the end only shows what kind of cunning she really had. Enough to make yah shudder
Mirai wrote:4- DR0 explains this.
5- SDR2 explains this part.
6- Again SDR2 and DR0 tells you this as well.
Wow. Sounds like I have some recommended reading before diving into DR2 when it comes out, then. Thanks!
Mirai wrote:As I said earlier I don't know if you have seen SDR2 and DR0 so I'm not sure weather your points are how you felt when you finished DR1 before seeing the other DR sources or you haven't and that's how you feel about it now.
Both, actually. It's how I felt when I finished the fan translation and how I still feel, despite having read half-way through DR2 and skimmed some vids of it (long before I realized Project Zetsubou or NISA for that matter were on it).
Avebone wrote:Honestly I kind of felt the same thing at first about SDR2 until I watched all of it. Then I realized that my life is much better for it's existence. The game itself is just so much better than DR1 to me in about every way. So I am glad that they decided to make a 2nd game instead of leave it open ended.
Well I've yet to really experience DR2 myself so maybe after that I might feel a bit differently. I'm glad they made it anyway, though, too.
ZekeFreek wrote:I always thought the real metaphor of Daganronpa was the fear and anxiety of graduating from High School and going out into a cynical and cut-throat world.
No, that's the actual subtext of the entire game, which is separate from the central theme (Hope V Despair), which you are WAY more observant than me for noticing as I...never realized that. haha
I feel so dumb now. Can't believe I didn't realize that.
ZekeFreek wrote:That kind of metaphor works for the first game if you choose to believe it. If you don't want to move past the first game, nobody is making you.
Oh, no, don't get me wrong I'm not going into a tirade about how the first was better or anything, just kind of letting out how I felt as a whole after just finishing this game again. I will totally be buying DR2, if only because it's easily one of the best sequels I've ever seen (and is also fun with a great cast).
Besides, as a buddy of mine used to say "Stories end when they are ended, and a new one begins when the old one is continued."
Basically that if a story is self-contained and has an ending, no matter what the sequel(s) branch into, that story is still it's own entity. It's how I'm able to enjoy Metal Gear Solid even though Kojima had... other plans...for my boy Snake.
Anyway, did anyone else really get shocked by the level of voice acting for Junko? I mean, Togami took a bit of getting used to and everyone else was excellent to me, but Junko's was just on a whole other level. I've never heard a performance so fittingly frenetic.
Also, did you notice how Junko dropped her DID act part way through only to pick it up again? What do you guys think? Did she have a real evil organization of personalities in her head, or was this another put-on by Junko?