Missing a lot of Peon Voices

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Re: Missing a lot of Peon Voices

Postby Ringwraith » Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:19 pm

Seeing as they couldn't include both, seems like there's (yet another) odd programming quirk which made the decision fairly exclusive.
Though I hope you weren't buying the game just for the voice customisation options.
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Re: Missing a lot of Peon Voices

Postby vampko » Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:43 pm

Ringwraith wrote:Seeing as they couldn't include both, seems like there's (yet another) odd programming quirk which made the decision fairly exclusive.
Though I hope you weren't buying the game just for the voice customisation options.

I wasn't. But this is cutting quite a lot out of the game. And makes me regret having bought it. Because then I'm supporting NISA thinking it's better to just cut out 90% of the content, rather than leaving 90% in, and just cutting a mere 10% of the content.
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Re: Missing a lot of Peon Voices

Postby NeptuniaYuriFan » Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:47 pm

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vampko wrote:how many voices were cut exactly?


All but four it sounds like.


Not true. I've got a least ten on my version of the game. You have to "unlock" to voices before you can choose them I think.
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Re: Missing a lot of Peon Voices

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Re: Missing a lot of Peon Voices

Postby NeptuniaYuriFan » Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:12 pm

I'm just glad that we got some peon voices. It's a lot better than having them be totally silent as was with the original Mugen Souls.
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Re: Missing a lot of Peon Voices

Postby vampko » Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:28 pm

NeptuniaYuriFan wrote:I'm just glad that we got some peon voices. It's a lot better than having them be totally silent as was with the original Mugen Souls.

except there was a magical way to get the voices in the original.

10's still pretty horrible. That's 70 voices I can't use. And 70 reasons to not use the Mugen Field much.
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Re: Missing a lot of Peon Voices

Postby Ringwraith » Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:32 pm

vampko wrote:
Ringwraith wrote:Seeing as they couldn't include both, seems like there's (yet another) odd programming quirk which made the decision fairly exclusive.
Though I hope you weren't buying the game just for the voice customisation options.

I wasn't. But this is cutting quite a lot out of the game. And makes me regret having bought it. Because then I'm supporting NISA thinking it's better to just cut out 90% of the content, rather than leaving 90% in, and just cutting a mere 10% of the content.

Apparently a less popular section of content apparently, with the given reason.
I can't speak to the actual numbers on that, but that was the given one, and has to be taken into account regardless.
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Re: Missing a lot of Peon Voices

Postby NeptuniaYuriFan » Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:42 pm

vampko wrote:
NeptuniaYuriFan wrote:I'm just glad that we got some peon voices. It's a lot better than having them be totally silent as was with the original Mugen Souls.

except there was a magical way to get the voices in the original.

10's still pretty horrible. That's 70 voices I can't use. And 70 reasons to not use the Mugen Field much.


Yeah, but if you wanted to hear them in original game you had to switch the language to Japanese. This also switched the main/story characters voices too.
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Re: Missing a lot of Peon Voices

Postby chouchou's peon » Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:54 pm

The next DLC that is going to be release is "unlock all voices" if we go by JP DLC order, then we can really see how much voices peons have on the EN version. I'm pretty sure I saw more than 10 voices on the livestream.
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Re: Missing a lot of Peon Voices

Postby vampko » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:14 am

The funny fact you realize is thus:
This game could have had 100% dub voices. All it took was making dummy sound files (as in silent files) and having them follow the naming convention. That's it. Then we'd have a full JP track, and the EN dub voices that they already had. This does nothing to mess with the program itself.

So, that leaves us three possibilities:
- CH are incompetent
- CH could care less about the experience that we(those outside Japan) get
- Or it could be NISA somehow

This solution is a very common one, so I'm really lost why it wasn't used. NISA doesn't have to record extra dub lines, and merely has to mass duplicate a single file and then rename it accordingly.
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Re: Missing a lot of Peon Voices

Postby Ringwraith » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:30 am

It's a bit odd I'll give you that.
Though considering previous cases of having to remove things wholesale due to editing them not being a thing I wouldn't be surprised if there was some silly programming reason why they couldn't do it.
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Re: Missing a lot of Peon Voices

Postby vampko » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:38 am

Ringwraith wrote:It's a bit odd I'll give you that.
Though considering previous cases of having to remove things wholesale due to editing them not being a thing I wouldn't be surprised if there was some silly programming reason why they couldn't do it.

There isn't. Dummy files act like the voice file, but just present no actual voice. It does nothing at all to the program itself. The program just loads up the "voice" file.
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Re: Missing a lot of Peon Voices

Postby Ringwraith » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:49 am

Well, like I said, either indicative of their odd coding issues, or just the amount of effort they're willing to put into things.
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Re: Missing a lot of Peon Voices

Postby vampko » Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:40 am

Ringwraith wrote:Well, like I said, either indicative of their odd coding issues, or just the amount of effort they're willing to put into things.

NISA could have done this in like...a few minutes. I'm sure they're the ones making the sound files for the "voices".
And, again, this would not affect the code in any way at all.
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Re: Missing a lot of Peon Voices

Postby Ringwraith » Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:43 am

...hence the comment about 'or being about how much effort they put into these things'.
Sometimes it simply doesn't make any logical sense to us on the outside.
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