Befriending and its hassles

[LAMV]

When you guys were trying to get a specific character's ending (other than Astrid), did you bother raising the other friends' FP? On this playthrough (my first) I'm going for Adventurer's Ending (and maybe Cordelia's Ending if I make another save before the end), so obviously I should focus on raising Cordelia's friendship points. As of this post she's almost at 100.

I'm starting to wonder if there's a point to raising Gio's, Cole's, Sterk's, etc. friendship points however. Some friends requests aren't too bad (Lionela as long as she's asking for nylonfeather/silkis cloth, Hagel who tends to ask for tinc/dry metal ingot, Cordelia's requests aren't too bad as long as she isn't asking for a dress, Iksel's tend to be easy too). But most friend requests are really annoying and require quite a bit of wasting time (Cole, Gio and sometimes Tiffani are definitely notorious of this). Did you guys try to raise everyone else's friendship points, or did you ignore them and only focus on the character you're going for?


(I know eventually I WILL have to get everybody to 100, though, when I go for Astrid Ending. It's going to be a super pain in the ass.)

[vampko]

Basically, the only point, outside of shopkeepers, is to try and be prepared for all endings at once, so that you can get your plat much easier.

[LAMV]

Basically, the only point, outside of shopkeepers, is to try and be prepared for all endings at once, so that you can get your plat much easier.

So then, unless I'm going for multiple ends in a single playthrough OR going for Astrid End, I shouldn't bother with the other friends, right? Because I'm thinking of ignoring people like Gio, Cole, etc. because some of the friends only waste my time with their hard to fulfill (or time-consuming) requests.

Since I'm going for only Adventurer/Cordelia on this playthrough, I'm thinking to get Cordelia to 100 FP (1 or 2 more requests should do it). Then focus on Front Quests and start getting my Trust rating up, which is rather abysmal at the moment. Maybe fulfill other friends' requests when I'm bored. Right now I'm really stomped and temporarily paused the game because I don't know which to focus on, but if I could deal solely with Cordelia and Front Quests and not worry about anything else, it would be easier on me.

I'll go for the Astrid End/other friends' ends on a second playthrough, probably.

[vampko]

Basically, the only point, outside of shopkeepers, is to try and be prepared for all endings at once, so that you can get your plat much easier.

So then, unless I'm going for multiple ends in a single playthrough OR going for Astrid End, I shouldn't bother with the other friends, right? Because I'm thinking of ignoring people like Gio, Cole, etc. because some of the friends only waste my time with their hard to fulfill (or time-consuming) requests.

Since I'm going for only Adventurer/Cordelia on this playthrough, I'm thinking to get Cordelia to 100 FP (1 or 2 more requests should do it). Then focus on Front Quests and start getting my Trust rating up, which is rather abysmal at the moment. Maybe fulfill other friends' requests when I'm bored. Right now I'm really stomped and temporarily paused the game because I don't know which to focus on, but if I could deal solely with Cordelia and Front Quests and not worry about anything else, it would be easier on me.

I'll go for the Astrid End/other friends' ends on a second playthrough, probably.

You can do that for sure. Although, shopkeepers get better stock, and allow you to register items in their store when you get their friendship higher. The combat only friends you don't need to bother with at all though. Unless you want the money or something

[LAMV]

You can do that for sure. Although, shopkeepers get better stock, and allow you to register items in their store when you get their friendship higher. The combat only friends you don't need to bother with at all though. Unless you want the money or something

Okay doke. I did get the shopkeepers to at least 30 FP since that's the requirement to do Wholesales (thanks, walkthroughs!).

Thanks for the replies, I feel better now. Back to the game!

[Crash15]

In my first play thru I got 3 people to 100 friendship but, could not get all the endings cause the population was under 80.

[Mlada]

In my first playthrough I got all playable characters up to 100, but I didn't trigger all of their flags. Shopkeepers, well, I barely tried with them. To me I had the hardest time (of the playable characters) with Cordelia on my first playthrough, because I either never had enough of those mushrooms, ran out of colbaltberry, those damn Arland crystals, and I think she offered a bomb-type request when I wasn't able to actually make the item yet. The madam's dress took a little trial-and-error to figure out what cloth I needed, but wasn't too bad. Gio's just a pain, but I never really had a problem as him requesting an item I couldn't make or didn't have time to make.

From what I can tell though, the second playthrough (or a NG+ playthrough I should say) seemed to go by much easier, because it was easy to buy stuff from stores to use for town requests, and save what I gathered for character requests or synthesizing stuff. I'm halfway through the second year (on my fourth playthrough, but third serious playthrough to try and get pretty much everything done in one playthrough...which should be obvious I failed one way or another somewhere along the line of the first two serious playthroughs, but did get the Astrid ending LOL), and I've already maxed out Sterk and Hagel, with near maxing of Tiffani, Iksel, Cordelia, half completed Gio and Lionela, with Tantris, Pamela and Cole being low just because I haven't had them for long. What I'm surprised with is how my Town rating is close to 60 while still doing those Cordelia quests. That I'm surprised about...

But yeah, like I mentioned, it gets a heck of a lot easier on NG+, but if you're not wanting to play it through from the start again, I can understand it too. Then again, you did say you were wanting to get the Astrid ending.

[Crash15]

Gio was a pain to get to requests cause he would want honey above 6.0 but, I usually bought from Cole but, other times they were impossible cause I wasn't far in the game yet.

[LAMV]

What I'm surprised with is how my Town rating is close to 60 while still doing those Cordelia quests. That I'm surprised about...

How the heck? My trust rating is 26%, and that's after all the stupid Cordelia requests! (Meaning if it wasn't for those, I'd probably be close to your number right now.) How did you get it so high after her requests? The front quests give jack crap for trust rating.

[vampko]

What I'm surprised with is how my Town rating is close to 60 while still doing those Cordelia quests. That I'm surprised about...

How the heck? My trust rating is 26%, and that's after all the stupid Cordelia requests! (Meaning if it wasn't for those, I'd probably be close to your number right now.) How did you get it so high after her requests? The front quests give jack crap for trust rating.

I got it to 100% after completing all Cordelia's requests. It just required A LOT of front counter quest spamming. Wasn't easy, but it worked out in the end. I actually only had ONE thing that I didn't naturally get for Cordelia's end,

Spoiler:

failing a synthesis. I couldn't figure out why things weren't working for the longest time. And it was all because I had been too good at alchemy....It was REALLY hard to fail a synthesis let me tell you...

Once I got that, it was smooth sailing to get her end ~

[LAMV]

How the heck? My trust rating is 26%, and that's after all the stupid Cordelia requests! (Meaning if it wasn't for those, I'd probably be close to your number right now.) How did you get it so high after her requests? The front quests give jack crap for trust rating.

I got it to 100% after completing all Cordelia's requests. It just required A LOT of front counter quest spamming. Wasn't easy, but it worked out in the end. I actually only had ONE thing that I didn't naturally get for Cordelia's end,

Spoiler:

failing a synthesis. I couldn't figure out why things weren't working for the longest time. And it was all because I had been too good at alchemy....It was REALLY hard to fail a synthesis let me tell you...

Once I got that, it was smooth sailing to get her end ~

Boy, it's going to be hard once I go for Astrid End for real in my second playthrough. Trying to get everyone's friendships maxed AND trigger their flags AND get trust to over 80? Whoo boy, sounds fun. Oh, I should add to my last post, I'm at the same point Mlada was (7th month of 2nd Year).

Oh, and if you need to fail a synthesis, just try to synthesize a Supplement and use an ingredient that has Complex+X (with x being a number). If you succeed, reload. Boy that sounds weird... reloading because you were successful.


EDIT: Don't know why I said "both" instead of "boy"... I'm not even sure I meant to say boy. Oh well.

[vampko]

How the heck? My trust rating is 26%, and that's after all the stupid Cordelia requests! (Meaning if it wasn't for those, I'd probably be close to your number right now.) How did you get it so high after her requests? The front quests give jack crap for trust rating.

I got it to 100% after completing all Cordelia's requests. It just required A LOT of front counter quest spamming. Wasn't easy, but it worked out in the end. I actually only had ONE thing that I didn't naturally get for Cordelia's end,

Spoiler:

failing a synthesis. I couldn't figure out why things weren't working for the longest time. And it was all because I had been too good at alchemy....It was REALLY hard to fail a synthesis let me tell you...

Once I got that, it was smooth sailing to get her end ~

Both, it's going to be hard once I go for Astrid End for real in my second playthrough. Trying to get everyone's friendships maxed AND trigger their flags AND get trust to over 80? Whoo boy, sounds fun. Oh, I should add to my last post, I'm at the same point Mlada was (7th month of 2nd Year).

Oh, and if you need to fail a synthesis, just try to synthesize a Supplement and use an ingredient that has Complex+X (with x being a number). If you succeed, reload. Boy that sounds weird... reloading because you were successful.

Oh believe me, I was doing syntheses that had 40% chance of success and it took me a little over an hour to finally fail a synthesis...it was REALLY annoying. But, once I did it, OF COURSE, I failed syntheses easily -.-

[Mlada]

Another thing is, I'm playing a NG+ playthrough in which I have half a million cole at the starting point. In the very beginning, like vampko said, I spammed the front requests like crazy and either used what I gathered or flat out bought the stuff to submit. I think the key is to do as many of those requests as possible BEFORE they start adding specific requirements (like quality 50 honey). The only thing I've still yet to focus on is those monster slaying requests. That, and especially after you get Hom, ALWAYS take on requests that involve you giving up extra items, like when you contemplate a request and Rorona says: "This will be fast if I take it from the container" or something along those words. Also, exploit the hell out the wholesale feature once your shopkeeper friendship levels are over 30 (when the option to wholesale stuff becomes available). Like make a bomb over 50, submit it to Hagel's wholesale, then whenever Gio or Sterk request bombs, just buy what you need and go from there. Pamela becomes really useful for those harder/longer to synthesize items.

As for Gio, all the honey I've ever seen him request are level 30, in which Cole's is 40, whereas Tiffani's requested honey (I think it's Tiffani at least) was around 60, but I didn't get that particular request from her that often. I just now maxed Gio's friendship out because I got lucky for a while and that's all he asked from me towards the end (as well as the occassional beast statues and bombs). Cole is FRICKIN hard, but I managed to wholesale a blessed coin at 75 quality at Pamela's shop and now it's a cinch (when he requests it that is). Of course, this all falls back to the money issue, which is easier to do in the NG+ playthrough. I had one heck of a time my first playthrough with the town rating, as I think I was around 25 after the Cory quests by the end of year 2, but in the last year I frequently did requests and miraculously just made it to 80 by the end. I'm now at Year 2, 9/18, and my current town rating is 79, with Cory, Gio, Iksel, Hagel, Tiffani, and Sterk maxed, with the rest either halfway or close to maxed. My final year I'm going to do more adventuring hopefully, given that Rorona and Cory are around lvl 25, which is worse than I planned for...

[Crash15]

Cole is hard cause he would always want candy but, at times he wants those berries. So the better the quality the more friendship levels up.? Got it!

[Mlada]

Don't hold me to that theory, but I still support it. From what I can tell, if I make a decent quality bomb (as in the bomb carries traits that's good for a bomb to have as well as a better quality), it seems to do better than a bomb with no traits. Like I said though, I never actually tested that theory for sure though, but that's the only reason why I can figure out that Gio's bomb requests netted higher points given I synthesized a good bomb with good traits, put it in Hagel's shop, and use them for Gio's quests.

And I think the alchemy candy can be registered somewhere too, but I haven't tried it yet (and I know what you mean, that candy is a b---- to make (for me at least).