Trapezohedron

[Tajirii]

So I'm trying to obtain a Trapezohedron and I know you need a Legendary Arcadia to get it. I read somewhere that in the first battle with Pringer X: Poison (where there is only 1 of them) that I can quit/reset and by a small change he will be wearing a rare or legendary Arcadia. Is this true?

[ultima360]

Yes. It works with the 8x Pringer X: Poison too.

[Tajirii]

I'm not yet able to take on all 8 of the Pringer X yet. But I shall try it out on the 1, if nothing else I have patience. Not sure why but no matter how high I get my DEF they still hurt like hell. LOL. I have 3.2mil DEF and its still painful.

[AsukaNeumaki]

Yeah just throw HP and DEF out the window focus on ATK/SPD(Fist users)/HIT(gun users) for physical and INT for magical those are the main ones

[japangator]

Yeah those Pringer X things can still one-hit kill my team in the Land of Carnage even when my characters have perfected Trapezohedrons and weapons including with all the stat boosts from special innocents like the guardian. You'll quickly learn soon enough that when you start fighting against super strong people the only way to survive an attack then is if you was lucky enough to dodge it. (thank God for the ninjas )

[Tajirii]

So I got the legendary Arcadia last night. I didn't have a chance to run through the item world with it though. I have a question regarding that though:

Q1: What innocents would I need to put on it to obtain a perfect Trapezohedron with the following stats:

@lvl 300:
HP: 1,020,900
SP: 510,600
ATK: 1,412,006
DEF: 510,600
HIT: 510,600
INT: 510,600
SPD: 510,600
RES: 510,600

I am assuming I would need the Gladiator Innocents on there but how many? Or is this even correct?

A1:???

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Q2:Do I really need to worry about leveling the Legendary Arcadia up to 300 if I plan on making the Trapezohedron level 300 and duping it? Or can I rush through it and save time?

A2:????

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Q3: Can I do the item world in the normal base map to 99, then Mr. Gency out and then enter it in the LoC world at level 99 and get the Item King with the Trapezohedron? Or does it all need to be done in the LoC item world?

A3: Found out on my own, yes you can start in the normal world, Mr. Gency out on 99 and then enter it in the LoC Item World to get it.

[japangator]

Q2:Do I really need to worry about leveling the Legendary Arcadia up to 300 if I plan on making the Trapezohedron level 300 and duping it? Or can I rush through it and save time?
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If you're working on perfecting the trapezohedron then don't bother trying to perfect something that's 2nd best like the arcadia, just rush through the 100 floors to get it

[general_manny]

Reaching the attack cap (99.9mil) is faily easy to get now, passing 6 attack bills on a Trap would be half as useful for bow and fist users and useless on gun and staff users. I'd suggest passing some HP bills and movement bills instead.

My Sword, Spear and Axe unique chars (Valvatorez for example) are still far from reaching 300% apt in Attack yet their attack hits 99mil easily with three perfect Traps with 4 HP, 2 MV bills passed on each, and with said weapons with 3.4mil attack (6 Atk Bills passed on Sword/Spear/Axe). Their hp stands at a decent 85m-90m'ish right now and when they do get 300% aptitudes like all my generic humanoids, it will reach 150-160mil.

If you want to steal an Arcadia and survive Pringer X attacks easier, grab a Land of Carnage wood golem (Highest Tier you can grab and with tons of hp), and a lvl 500 Lumberjack, lvl 25 Magichange Lover and bond of souls evility. Store the lumberjack onto one of your Bond of Soul Character and magichange with that golem (with Beast Lab evil symbol) and your hp will soar over billions for as many turns possible.

You'll need a good healer (Archangel Flonne is great) to heal all that hp after magichanging.

[Tajirii]

I don't need to steal the Arcadia anymore. I have stolen it and I have obtained a Legendary Trapezohedron rank 0. I was reading in a gameFAQ guide about level 300 items that a perfect Trapezohedron is possible with the following stats and bills passed:

@lvl 300:
Innocents: None during leveling process
HP: 1,020,900
SP: 510,600
ATK: 510,600
DEF: 510,600
HIT: 510,600
INT: 510,600
SPD: 510,600
RES: 510,600
Floor 10: +1 Movement Bill
Floor 20: +1 Movement Bill
Floor 30: +1 Movement Bill
Floor 40: +1 Movement Bill
Floor 50: +1 Movement Bill
Floor 70: +1 Movement Bill

This is one that was leveled with no innocents on it. Would adding a set of innocents help to increase the stats higher then 510,600? Or would I have to pass a bill to push it higher. I had initially thought about adding a stack of Gladiator, Sentry, Coach, Tutor, Marksman and Physician to up stats a bit more. But I don't know if that will increase the base numbers any more without passing bills to increase the growth rate.

I've played other Disgaea's but never made it to the point of making r40 items to perfect. In Disgaea 2, I had 15 of 16 map pieces and could never find the final piece. And in Disgaea DS, I got bored with the system rather fast (like it on larger screens).

[general_manny]

I don't need to steal the Arcadia anymore. I have stolen it and I have obtained a Legendary Trapezohedron rank 0. I was reading in a gameFAQ guide about level 300 items that a perfect Trapezohedron is possible with the following stats and bills passed:

@lvl 300:
Innocents: None during leveling process
HP: 1,020,900
SP: 510,600
ATK: 510,600
DEF: 510,600
HIT: 510,600
INT: 510,600
SPD: 510,600
RES: 510,600
Floor 10: +1 Movement Bill
Floor 20: +1 Movement Bill
Floor 30: +1 Movement Bill
Floor 40: +1 Movement Bill
Floor 50: +1 Movement Bill
Floor 70: +1 Movement Bill

This is one that was leveled with no innocents on it. Would adding a set of innocents help to increase the stats higher then 510,600? Or would I have to pass a bill to push it higher. I had initially thought about adding a stack of Gladiator, Sentry, Coach, Tutor, Marksman and Physician to up stats a bit more. But I don't know if that will increase the base numbers any more without passing bills to increase the growth rate.

I've played other Disgaea's but never made it to the point of making r40 items to perfect. In Disgaea 2, I had 15 of 16 map pieces and could never find the final piece. And in Disgaea DS, I got bored with the system rather fast (like it on larger screens).

There's no need. What you need is a lvl 500 Guardian innocent and a perfect weapon with (Baal Sword +lv 500 Fencer, Drill Emperor+ lv 500 Lancer, Grand Madness+ lv 500 Lumberjack) to multiply those stats by 5. Having all armor and weapon with rarity 0 will increase the stats even more. My Valvatorez using a 3.4mil attack Baal Sword and 510k all stat (2.1m hp) Traps has 99mil attack with around 170% Attack Aptitude (His evility is violence which you can find in Priere or a tier 4+ android's chara world).

Adding innocents will increase the stats higher but only by a small margin. In my opinion having more hp is better than too much movement unless it's for an item world runner like the Super Hero Class or Mothman.

[Tajirii]

There's no need. What you need is a lvl 500 Guardian innocent and a perfect weapon with (Baal Sword +lv 500 Fencer, Drill Emperor+ lv 500 Lancer, Grand Madness+ lv 500 Lumberjack) to multiply those stats by 5. Having all armor and weapon with rarity 0 will increase the stats even more. My Valvatorez using a 3.4mil attack Baal Sword and 510k all stat (2.1m hp) Traps has 99mil attack with around 170% Attack Aptitude (His evility is violence which you can find in Priere or a tier 4+ android's chara world).

Adding innocents will increase the stats higher but only by a small margin. In my opinion having more hp is better than too much movement unless it's for an item world runner like the Super Hero Class or Mothman.

Do I need to have the Guardian on the Trap before I start to level it or afterwards?

[general_manny]

After you perfect it. Weapon and Accessory innocents can be placed on any Trapezohedron for the effect to work. If you dual wield alot I'd suggest putting Guardian on the second or third Trapezohedron since the first one will be replaced with a monster weapon.

[Xemnarth]

So I got the legendary Arcadia last night. I didn't have a chance to run through the item world with it though. I have a question regarding that though:

Q1: What innocents would I need to put on it to obtain a perfect Trapezohedron with the following stats:

@lvl 300:
HP: 1,020,900
SP: 510,600
ATK: 1,412,006
DEF: 510,600
HIT: 510,600
INT: 510,600
SPD: 510,600
RES: 510,600

I am assuming I would need the Gladiator Innocents on there but how many? Or is this even correct?

A1:???

In the above example, you will need to pass 6 More ATK Growth bills to achieve 1,412,306. Adding multiple Gladiator Innocents (8 max) regardless of innocent level will further increase ATK by 894 max by double killing every Item World boss. After fully leveling the item, you can then replace the single-stat innocents with dual-stats innocents for better overall stats.

Adding innocents will increase the stats higher but only by a small margin. In my opinion having more hp is better than too much movement unless it's for an item world runner like the Super Hero Class or Mothman.

I believe a perfect neutral Trap should have 4 Mov and 2 Jump bills passed.
Also have you noticed that HP and SP go very well beyond 99,999,999 when compared to the other stats?