Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 reviews topic

[MizuMikomi]

Matter of opinion.

Personally, I thought it was better than Tales of Xillia, and MOST JRPGs I've played in the past few years. It topped Vesperia for me, as well.

Mk2 was original, well thought out, and a solid title.
Sure it had a few hiccups here and there, but for the most part, people won't care. Since it's a good game.

Yeah sure it is a matter of opinion but a rating of 5/5 would mean the game is perfect, which you said it isn't. That's also the reason I prefer ratings in percent, because they're more accurate.

And I'm sorry but, comparing mk2 with ToV has to be a joke as ToV is far superior than mk2. But that's another topic.

Nothing is "Perfect", a 5/5 is the best score, but it doesn't mean a game is perfect. As no game is absolutely perfect.

If I wanted I could point out flaws in every game I have played, even those that have been highly praised and referred to as "Flawlessly perfect". Including those games that I have put on a pedestal, and have called my absolute favorites.

Yet which one do I enjoy playing more?
When I have the option to play one over the other, which do I go to first? Mk2 not ToX, not ToV, not XIII-2.

Ever think there are people out there that are tired of the way JRPGs like that are presented? Maybe that Mk2 is like a breath for fresh air for some, because it took the risks that most other companies won't?

It's not a joke, since Vesperia; while one of my favorite games, is less enjoyable for me than Mk2. It's my opinion, and calling it a 'joke' is rather uncalled for, don't you think?

So as I said, all of it is a matter of opinion. Since review scores are just a number, representing someone else's opinion.

Need I say more?

[kanade2]

I really don't see why people are upset over one review that gave HDN Mk2 a 5/5 rating ...

It's just a opinion that really should be taken with a grain of salt ...

Once more reviews come out from the so called creditable websites we will get a clearer picture at where HDN Mk2 really stands .

[vertical09]

Well, I've been lurking here for a bit now-thought you guys might be interested to see this....

http://www.pixelperfectgaming.com/?p=23613

An 5/5?
As much as i want the game and support the game, i cant really say it deserves a perfect score, it would have been better if the rating system was percentage based so it can be more accurate.
ANYWAY, im looking forward to metacrtics and ign's lulzy review XD im 90% sure they'll talk shit about the game most of the time, but either way, it should score higher than HDN.

[Empty Overture]

So I heard something about people arguing opinions?



Long story short. It's a damn opinion. Get over it.

[Ghaleon]

Here we go again. I HATE scoring games. I mean do people Listen to music and say it is 4/5 good? Reviewers might but thats a stupid concept too imo.

Err no offense mr reviewer. I can respect you need to score as part of your job. I just think of gaming, like food, art, music, etc... Scoring all of them is pointless imo. I use reviews to hear the pros and cons, improvements and disappointments, but certainly not score.

[vertical09]

Opinions are meant to be discussed, arguring is part of discussing =P.
I really only read reviews to lol at some of the shit they say XD

[Empty Overture]

Opinions are meant to be discussed, arguring is part of discussing =P.
I really only read reviews to lol at some of the shit they say XD

I understand that. It's just annoying when people act like their opinion is fact~

[RonXSilva]

It a sad day when a group of ppl complains when someone enjoyed the game more than others how dare they enjoy the game more than me! They must enjoy it just as much as me! Not more!... Sounds silly when I say it like that :p

[vampko]

5/5 isn't perfect. There's no such thing. It means the game went above and beyond. That's what It means. Just like how an A+ doesn't mean you did perfect. It just means you went above and beyond what was expected of you.

[RonXSilva]

5/5 isn't perfect. There's no such thing. It means the game went above and beyond. That's what It means. Just like how an A+ doesn't mean you did perfect. It just means you went above and beyond what was expected of you.

Yeah thats a perfect way to put it.

[Sik]

Late since I was sleeping:

...To further enhance yourstrategic possibilities, the AP counter is no longer timed. This means you’re now able to input commands at your own pace.

I don't recall any part of Neptunia's battle system being restricted by time, especially the AP meter. Perhaps the reviewer has mistaken Neptunia's battle system for Trinity Universe's? A common mistake I suppose.

Overall I agree with what was written in the review, I'm glad this game is faring better already.

I admit that is an error on my part and I didn't realize why I was wrong till you posted. Since I reviewed Neptunia 1 over a year ago... I haven't touched the game. Due to deadlines / Vita / life I didn't have the time to replay Neptunia 1. Due to this I was going off memory and I remembered constantly HAVING to do quick combos. When you made this remark I remembered that it was based off breaks and those are no longer timed. Since I didn't feel the need to rush I assumed incorrectly off my memory. Regardless you can still go at your own pace unlike Neptunia.

Actually, I think I know where the error comes from. Some non-story dungeons were timed. There wasn't a time limit, but the time determined your rank when you beat it. So in that sense yes, they were timed, if you wanted to get the best rankings in all those dungeons. But none of the story dungeons were timed, and technically none of the dungeons has a limit.

And the timing of guard breaks is mostly a bug - skipping doesn't account for the remaining time of the attack (properly) and thereby guard breaks aren't adjusted accordingly, which can lead to some serious abuse as you can get a longer guard break time.

[lopez]

5/5 isn't perfect. There's no such thing. It means the game went above and beyond. That's what It means. Just like how an A+ doesn't mean you did perfect. It just means you went above and beyond what was expected of you.

The grading system in an academic setting isn't uniform across all subjects. An A+ grade in an English Lit class is more subjective than getting the same grade in an objective class like Calculus. Getting an A+ in English Lit "just means you went above and beyond what was expected of you" as compared to a Math class where you either know the material, and how to apply it, or you don't.

Reviewing a video game, in essence, is a simple matter: does a particular game mechanic work effectively? Are there any flaws in the game (frame-rate issues, excessively long load times, visual pop-up, etc...? Is there any replay value?

So, when a game gets an average score of 9/10, that means the game is well made regardless of consumer preference.

Do reviewers tend to toss in their opinions as "fact?"
Sure.
Does that mean the entire review is a subjective fanboy/troll soapbox?
No.
People just need to learn how to read between the lines and weed out the objective findings that constitute the review.

Tl;dr version:

Game reviews are objective. People can easily be subjective in their views. Readers need to actively read reviews to remove the authors biases and find the (sometimes hidden) objective findings.

[vampko]

5/5 isn't perfect. There's no such thing. It means the game went above and beyond. That's what It means. Just like how an A+ doesn't mean you did perfect. It just means you went above and beyond what was expected of you.

The grading system in an academic setting isn't uniform across all subjects. An A+ grade in an English Lit class is more subjective than getting the same grade in an objective class like Calculus. Getting an A+ in English Lit "just means you went above and beyond what was expected of you" as compared to a Math class where you either know the material, and how to apply it, or you don't.

Reviewing a video game, in essence, is a simple matter: does a particular game mechanic work effectively? Are there any flaws in the game (frame-rate issues, excessively long load times, visual pop-up, etc...? Is there any replay value?

So, when a game gets an average score of 9/10, that means the game is well made regardless of consumer preference.

Do reviewers tend to toss in their opinions as "fact?"
Sure.
Does that mean the entire review is a subjective fanboy/troll soapbox?
No.
People just need to learn how to read between the lines and weed out the objective findings that constitute the review.

Tl;dr version:

Game reviews are objective. People can easily be subjective in their views. Readers need to actively read reviews to remove the authors biases and find the (sometimes hidden) objective findings.

You can know your material and still get an A- in a math class. Effort (or innate genius) is what gets you that A/A+ no matter the class. Unless the instructor just throws out 100's like nothing.

[Emerald Emblem]

I found our first Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 review, so now I think is the perfect time to start the reviews topic:

Our first review is from 'Just Push Start'
http://www.justpushstart.com/2012/02/hy ... k2-review/

They complement the new combat system, more traditional item use, the wider variety in environments, the use of 3d models over silhouettes, the streamlined world map and better use of references. They do however slate the preachy story, the over-abundance in cash available and the item synth system (though the reviewer only got 4 recipes so this seems a weaker point as I've found some 15 recipes and only on chapter 2).

Overall they scored the game a 4/5, so a great review to start things off.

When you find other reviews please post them here. Thank you.

I am sorry if my remark was confusing about the synth system. I have about 40 recipes, but I could only ACTUALLY create 4 of them. Many of the items I couldn't make didn't have a use long term... so it made the system feel pointless to me.

Wow, wasn't expecting the reviewer to register to correct me, thank you for actually clearing my misunderstanding up, I'll edit it now.

On another note, if the review site actually reviewed the first title as well feel free to post the score they gave so we can see how big a difference the game is.

[admiralvic]

I found our first Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 review, so now I think is the perfect time to start the reviews topic:

Our first review is from 'Just Push Start'
http://www.justpushstart.com/2012/02/hy ... k2-review/

They complement the new combat system, more traditional item use, the wider variety in environments, the use of 3d models over silhouettes, the streamlined world map and better use of references. They do however slate the preachy story, the over-abundance in cash available and the item synth system (though the reviewer only got 4 recipes so this seems a weaker point as I've found some 15 recipes and only on chapter 2).

Overall they scored the game a 4/5, so a great review to start things off.

When you find other reviews please post them here. Thank you.

I am sorry if my remark was confusing about the synth system. I have about 40 recipes, but I could only ACTUALLY create 4 of them. Many of the items I couldn't make didn't have a use long term... so it made the system feel pointless to me.

Wow, wasn't expecting the reviewer to register to correct me, thank you for actually clearing my misunderstanding up, I'll edit it now.

On another note, if the review site actually reviewed the first title as well feel free to post the score they gave so we can see how big a difference the game is.

Original - 3.5 (JPS)
MK 2 - 4 (JPS)

though I would say you can consider it a 1.5 difference.