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Re: Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time (PSP)

Postby stealth20k » Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:13 am

kratoscar2008 wrote:
stealth20k wrote:yeah but persona 3 came out on the market first


Well Persona 3 came in japan after person 2 IS. Growlanser 4 came in japan after growlanser 1. In America we got Persona 3 psp and later 2 IS so now we are going to have Growlanser 4 psp and then we can get Growlanser 1 psp.
I dont really care if Grow 1 is localized because i had already finished the psx one around three times and i will play the psp one even if its in japanese (yet again) eventually.

Sorry if i sound like a fanboy but i really like Growlanser. On that note like you said if Growlanser get a new entry i would more happy with it than if Grow 1 gets localized.

What I was saying is persona 3 PSP game to japan before persona 2 IS did. Thats why one got localized before the other
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Re: Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time (PSP)

Postby kratoscar2008 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:46 am

stealth20k wrote:
kratoscar2008 wrote:
stealth20k wrote:yeah but persona 3 came out on the market first


Well Persona 3 came in japan after person 2 IS. Growlanser 4 came in japan after growlanser 1. In America we got Persona 3 psp and later 2 IS so now we are going to have Growlanser 4 psp and then we can get Growlanser 1 psp.
I dont really care if Grow 1 is localized because i had already finished the psx one around three times and i will play the psp one even if its in japanese (yet again) eventually.

Sorry if i sound like a fanboy but i really like Growlanser. On that note like you said if Growlanser get a new entry i would more happy with it than if Grow 1 gets localized.

What I was saying is persona 3 PSP game to japan before persona 2 IS did. Thats why one got localized before the other


Now you make sense well if grow 1 gets localized good if not good too i just feel sorry for those that havent played grow 1.
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Re: Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time (PSP)

Postby stealth20k » Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:13 am

thats exactly what i said before :?
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Re: Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time (PSP)

Postby kratoscar2008 » Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:44 am

stealth20k wrote:thats exactly what i said before :?


As you have notice what you said at first it was open to interpretation :geek:
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Re: Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time (PSP)

Postby stealth20k » Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:16 pm

I wish there was a head smack smiley
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Re: Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time (PSP)

Postby izanagi_the_creator » Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:04 am

I wonder how many more weeks until the official website go live with wallpapers..
Have you heard of the Growlanser?
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Re: Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time (PSP)

Postby stealth20k » Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:22 am

probably not too long

I would suspect when they take devil survivor 2 down.

That and persona arena will go up

and then after e3 when they announce etrian IV and persona 4 golden

those will go up after gungir and growlanser and persona 4 come out
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Re: Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time (PSP)

Postby daveyd » Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:48 am

stealth20k wrote:the psn defense is weak. The sales on psn would be miniscule.

The psp's day is over

the best thing we can hope for is a new growlanser in years


What are basing this assumption on? Have there been any JRPGs released in English on PSN-only? While it's certainly true that when a physical UMD is released the PSN sales are relatively small, I would think if PSN is the only way to get it, their sales would be significantly greater.

stealth20k wrote:The difference is 4 was the last growlanser game released. They are localizing it.

They passed on the first. Thats a known fact. Its almost impossible they would go back now


What are you basing this on? There isn't a statute of limitations on game releases that I'm aware of and Growlanser is still Atlus's property so what makes it "impossible"?.

I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I am genuinely interested in clarification.

Anyway, I will concede that it is very unlikely they would localize Grow 1 at this stage, but I really hope we see an English Growlanser 1 some day. I have a feeling the dated PSOne graphics is why Atlus USA did not localize Growlanser 1 PSP. I suppose for all we know, Atlus Japan is planning another Growlanser 1 remake on the Vita and that could be why Atlus USA didn't do the PSP version. If they remade it on the VIta that alone would persuade me to get a Vita.
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Re: Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time (PSP)

Postby stealth20k » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:18 pm

daveyd wrote:
stealth20k wrote:the psn defense is weak. The sales on psn would be miniscule.

The psp's day is over

the best thing we can hope for is a new growlanser in years


What are basing this assumption on? Have there been any JRPGs released in English on PSN-only? While it's certainly true that when a physical UMD is released the PSN sales are relatively small, I would think if PSN is the only way to get it, their sales would be significantly greater.

stealth20k wrote:The difference is 4 was the last growlanser game released. They are localizing it.

They passed on the first. Thats a known fact. Its almost impossible they would go back now


What are you basing this on? There isn't a statute of limitations on game releases that I'm aware of and Growlanser is still Atlus's property so what makes it "impossible"?.

I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I am genuinely interested in clarification.

Anyway, I will concede that it is very unlikely they would localize Grow 1 at this stage, but I really hope we see an English Growlanser 1 some day. I have a feeling the dated PSOne graphics is why Atlus USA did not localize Growlanser 1 PSP. I suppose for all we know, Atlus Japan is planning another Growlanser 1 remake on the Vita and that could be why Atlus USA didn't do the PSP version. If they remade it on the VIta that alone would persuade me to get a Vita.



1) I am basing the assuption on other known psn games we know about. Lgened of heroes, stein, ect other games with smaller psn sales

2) When have you ever known atlus to go back and localize an older game AFTER a newer one in the same series?

It hasnt happened. Hell atlus wont even localize sequels sometimes in the same series theyve localized in before
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Re: Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time (PSP)

Postby daveyd » Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:36 am

stealth20k wrote:
1) I am basing the assuption on other known psn games we know about. Lgened of heroes, stein, ect other games with smaller psn sales


But those games had physical UMD releases, too. My point was that PSN sales would be better if there was no UMD available; I've never purchased a game off PSN, but if a game I wanted was released as PSN-only I'd definitely get it. Also, the PSVita was just released in the US, so it's too early to say how many more PSP games are going to sell off PSN (lots of people who never had a PSP may be gettiing for games they missed out on, especially since the current Vita library is so limited). I suspect that quite a few fans who want Wayfarer of Time but don't have a PSP will decide to buy a VIta so they can download it and still have a new system.

stealth20k wrote:2) When have you ever known atlus to go back and localize an older game AFTER a newer one in the same series?

It hasn't happened. Hell atlus wont even localize sequels sometimes in the same series theyve localized in before


True, Atlus hasn't done that, but that could simply be because most of their series have direct sequels so it would be really stupid to localize a direct sequel to a game that hasn't been localized yet. But there's a first time for everything and since Wayfarer of Time is a different universe from Growlanser I with a standalone story, the order of release wouldn't matter though.

Presumably, the reason Atlus didn't localize sequels to games they've localized (i.e., Luminous Arc 3) is because previous installments didn't sell very well. My whole argument is that they'd only consider releasing Grow I PSP if Wayfarer of time has exceptional sales. Again, not arguing that this is likely, just not impossible.
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Re: Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time (PSP)

Postby kratoscar2008 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:27 am

the game industry is always changing so nothing is a staple i think. Wether we see Grow 1 out is not impossible is only very unlikely.
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Re: Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time (PSP)

Postby stealth20k » Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:21 am

sure maybe if it went platinum in the states atlus would consider going back to 1
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Re: Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time (PSP)

Postby Shizuka » Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:10 am

This is the last PSP title I'm looking forward to, really. NISA dropped the ball with BRS more than once, and Vanillaware surely wants everybody getting Dragon's Crown instead of GHK.
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Re: Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time (PSP)

Postby PringlesXD » Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:16 am

Shizuka wrote:This is the last PSP title I'm looking forward to, really. NISA dropped the ball with BRS more than once, and Vanillaware surely wants everybody getting Dragon's Crown instead of GHK.

I'll get them all, though. Well, not sure about Growlanser, but I'm sure about the rest.
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Re: Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time (PSP)

Postby stealth20k » Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:30 am

BRS was a disaster, and remains one.


Grand knight history I still want

And then of course there are the brand new psp games a la god eater 2, new super robot wars, new legend of heroes, new anime namco title, digimon, and other things
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