This is why game reviews fail...

[Tokiko]

your mother plays neptunia?that's awesome.

If she did that'd mean I could afford to buy the game... I wish that was the case x_x She doesn't understand English anyways (let alone Japanese).

She likes Purple Heart though :v

sufficiently epic (i can't know what happen if i say "mom,i REALLY like this character/girl*show an image of white-sama*")

But how could you not like white heart? she's so adowable! as long as your mom never hears her talk anyway that might change her mind on her XD

[Venus]

It's not much better to make a topic solely dedicated to complaining about how much reviewers dislike the game you like >.>

Eh, the problem here is bashing the fanbase, not the game =S Though yeah, title is misleading, most reviews from haters just bash the game rather than trying to be insulting.

Vampko is exactly right. You guys all know precisely how these reviewers are and what they are going to say. We all knew Mk2 was going to get a mediocre to bad score. I'm not saying the reviewers are right by any stretch but what I am saying is that none of this should come as a surprise.

[Sheleigha]

The bad reviews themselves aren't surprising, I know people hate on JRPGs for whatever reason. But what does surprise me, is the whole "this is a perverted game, and everyone who plays it sick" attitude. It's like taking a step back and saying "all Japanimation is porn". And yes, ill call it that, because some people still have that mindset. I really didnt even find the first game that perverted myself (for someone who's not into blatent ecchi).

[Ghaleon]

Actually, white heart is totally loveable when you hear her talk, just dont' hear her when she's angry. But when she's calm she's super soft spoken and and.. Well, before I found out her voice actor was a 190 year old granny I was preparing for a roadtrip to stalk her, when I found out though, my heart was crushed ='(

[hibari-sama]

The bad reviews themselves aren't surprising, I know people hate on JRPGs for whatever reason. But what does surprise me, is the whole "this is a perverted game, and everyone who plays it sick" attitude. It's like taking a step back and saying "all Japanimation is porn". And yes, ill call it that, because some people still have that mindset. I really didnt even find the first game that perverted myself (for someone who's not into blatent ecchi).

lol in italy we are still at "all animation(us or jap) is for kid" then he see gantz and elfen lied...

tokiko:when i was at the "6th school"(1st med.,don't know how to say in english) she wants me to be friend of some bully,and she know it;you got it? so i don't mind it's a problem of how white-sama speak

[Venus]

The bad reviews themselves aren't surprising, I know people hate on JRPGs for whatever reason. But what does surprise me, is the whole "this is a perverted game, and everyone who plays it sick" attitude. It's like taking a step back and saying "all Japanimation is porn". And yes, ill call it that, because some people still have that mindset. I really didnt even find the first game that perverted myself (for someone who's not into blatent ecchi).

I'm not surprised at all and I've been watching anime and playing JRPGs since I was a kid. You have to understand to people who are outsiders it's some strange weird phenomenon that's beyond their comprehension. When they see something like this:



To them they are young girls being made into a fetish. I think you get where I'm going but I'm not trying to turn this into a morality battle I'm just saying that we see these as just anime characters because that's what they are, but it's common from what my experience for people out side of the anime community to treat animated characters like real people why I don't know that's just how many of them see it.

[SaturnineTenshi]

I can't believe this discourse is happening a second (third, fourth?) time.

Well, I can.

But I don't want to.

[Sheleigha]

Well yeah, there are tons of people who don't understand it, nor bother looking into any of it.

However the main idea of the post, was showing a terrible review, that appeared to be based on looking at the cover, rather than saying anything about the gameplay period.

[vampko]

Which you guys do too much.

If you want to complain about reviews, do it in the review thread.

Reviewers are people too, and they have opinions. If they think we're perverted basement dwellers who jack off to kiddie porn just because we play a game like this, then that's their opinion. There's no need trying to convince them otherwise by making a post on a forum of a localization company that brings over those types of games regularly. And, you most certainly won't convince them otherwise. No matter what you try, they will just think you're in stronger denial, which makes you more 'guilty'.

Just, leave it be.

Why not focus on the POSITIVE reviews? Or the ones which are more middleground? Why focus on so much negativity? It makes it look like you guys are trying to convince yourselves of something, or have something to prove or whatever.

People have been treating the otaku crowd like creepers globally for ever. It's just a part of having a hobby that isn't 'mainstream'.

If you SERIOUSLY feel like you need to do something about it, then inform the reviewer, or the publisher of the review about why you feel they unfairly represented the demographic who plays the games. THAT will have an effect. It may not be a huge one. But, it will help to at least put a small semblance that 'maybe, JUST MAYBE, these sort of people are decent human beings like ourselves. And they just have interests in other things', in their heads.

Just always remember to keep things civil and respectful.

[Venus]

Which you guys do too much.

If you want to complain about reviews, do it in the review thread.

Reviewers are people too, and they have opinions. If they think we're perverted basement dwellers who jack off to kiddie porn just because we play a game like this, then that's their opinion. There's no need trying to convince them otherwise by making a post on a forum of a localization company that brings over those types of games regularly. And, you most certainly won't convince them otherwise. No matter what you try, they will just think you're in stronger denial, which makes you more 'guilty'.

Just, leave it be.

Why not focus on the POSITIVE reviews? Or the ones which are more middleground? Why focus on so much negativity? It makes it look like you guys are trying to convince yourselves of something, or have something to prove or whatever.

People have been treating the otaku crowd like creepers globally for ever. It's just a part of having a hobby that isn't 'mainstream'.

If you SERIOUSLY feel like you need to do something about it, then inform the reviewer, or the publisher of the review about why you feel they unfairly represented the demographic who plays the games. THAT will have an effect. It may not be a huge one. But, it will help to at least put a small semblance that 'maybe, JUST MAYBE, these sort of people are decent human beings like ourselves. And they just have interests in other things', in their heads.

Just always remember to keep things civil and respectful.

Preach on!

[hibari-sama]

vampko:no,if we don't say nothing on thing like that the world will continue to treat us forever in that way,you're simply giving up,for example this review would be a great chance to let know the people that we're not what they think(kid,pedos or whatever),but you want to give up.... you're disappointing vampko.

[Mirai]

I find these kind of reviews amusing as they'll blab on about how morally wrong it is to look at 'cartoony 12-year olds', yet these reviewers will also play games where they blow people to pieces with a shotgun, which in reality is more morally wrong, yet they aren't going to complain about that, because to them its a natural thing to do in an WRPG/FPS.
In the end its just a matter of cultural differences.

[kanade2]

vampko:no,if we don't say nothing on thing like that the world will continue to treat us forever in that way,you're simply giving up,for example this review would be a great chance to let know the people that we're not what they think(kid,pedos or whatever),but you want to give up.... you're disappointing vampko.

Well the truth is nothing is going to change even with this topic ......

If you want the world to treat us differently you have to take the fight to the right people,and place which isn't here to start with .

[Shizuka]

Why bother? Either you don't take reviews period, or you take both good and bad reviews. People here seem to care about the positive reviews and dismiss the negative ones without even taking a proper look at it.

[Ghaleon]

This is a forum for us to communicate to each other with. Provided we aren't breaking any rules, I don't see a problem with someone wanting to vent/complain/criticize something. If you're not interested that's ok, but the op clearly had enough opinions about the matter to bring it up, and I personally have related opinions, as do others. Not everything on a forum has to have a purpose, sometimes people just like talking about something just for the sake of conversation, what else would be the point of the off topic threads, or the "who is your favorite ____" threads. People are just curious about other people's opinions on a subject is all. Now if someone is outright insulting reviewers as a whole or something and/or you have a conflicting opinion with what they said, by all means feel free to speak up. But if someone isn't breaking any rules please don't tell them they they can't/shouldn't post about something.