Shakugan no Shana III (Final)

[Obake]

Episode 20/21

Spoiler:

Shana and Yuji continue their fight, Shana alters the spell to create the new world to disallow consumption of humans. I imagine Yuji wouldn't have any problem with this, but Snake is in control and takes exception. I think more to the fact that someone would dare interfere with his creation than anything else.

The Flame Haze outside Shana's immediate circle - and especially the Four Gods of the Motherland - are really starting to look like the bad guys here. "Yeah, we're gonna let you leave, no problem. We're just gonna just gonna go on a genocidal killing spree while we wait. Make sure to tell your kids."

[MizuMikomi]

I want to see 22 so badly right now... Nico Nico still hasn't put it up. Guess I will be waiting on SS-Eclipse.

Edit: Nico Put it up (Thanks to Vamp for telling me)

Spoiler:

HOOOOOOOOLY SHIT.
Yes, just YES.

That was by far the best episode yet.
Seeing a fake Yoshida burn to death-- sorry, but I teared up thinking it was the real one. Then you find out it wasn't... just.. yeah.

Dantalion's death was epic!!!

"Oya?"
*Dies in violent explosion*

I had to LOL at it.

Well, two episode left, disappointed that it's almost over. But Shana's had a great run, and season three has lived up to it's hype for me. So yeah.

I won't post again in this thread until after episode 24 has aired. Lol

[pandahao]

man i need the blu ray for all 3 seasons lul, if anything ill do it just for season 3 cuz it was the best one ._.

[myskaros]

Ep 23 had a bit too much go on without enough explanation, I think... or maybe I'm just really tired. Anyway, can't wait to see the finale!

I think the problem is that season 3 has too much information that may not have been introduced in the previous 2 seasons, so it's more complicated to people like me who don't follow wikis or translated novels. Hopefully it'll all make sense after the final episode.

[Obake]

23 was pretty freaking awesome. Not alot of action, but excellent story stuff.

Spoiler:

The new world is made, and the Tomogara accept the "no eating humans" restriction. Some pretty good exposition surrounding that, but it was the visuals that really sold it for me. As the camera pans around to the Tomogara's faces, they just look tired of it all.

For some reason it seems Yuji and Shana are still going to fight next episode. Not sure how much of a chance Yuji's got. I mean, the God of Creation has left him, and a massive amount of power was just spent creating Xanadu - what's he got left to work with? Presumably they'll make up by the end, which I'm quite looking forward to. As great as this season's been, I miss the old interactions between those two.

Ep 23 had a bit too much go on without enough explanation, I think... or maybe I'm just really tired. Anyway, can't wait to see the finale!

I think the problem is that season 3 has too much information that may not have been introduced in the previous 2 seasons, so it's more complicated to people like me who don't follow wikis or translated novels. Hopefully it'll all make sense after the final episode.

The whole situation around Engage Link was like that for me.

Spoiler:

So there's this mysterious jar - supposedly that's them. Why and how? Who knows, but whatever. But somehow this attracts the attention of a third God. This God is irrelevant, yet everyone gawks at his presence. The God proceeds to glow, and spout bullshit like it means something. Something about the Engage Link creating a new life (I read this as child), and now that's the jar. Which is right, and why this matters, I don't know. But everyone nods their heads like they've just heard the most earthshatteringly profound words of their lives.

And then everything picks up exactly where it left off before the interruption.

[MizuMikomi]

I DLed 23 last night, about to watch it... but about the jar.

Spoiler:

It's a game changer, seriously.
The whole purpose the engage link, and from what you all said, they didn't explain WHAT it's importance is. And probably won't. >_>

That bit about the Reiji maigo at the beginning was MIND RAPE, that DID NOT happen in the novels. they never explained how the Reiji Maigo worked...I loved that. Also season three would do bes ton it's own, OR with some OVAs that detail Yuji's conversations with snake all throughout seasons 1 and 2.

Going to go watch it in full now, and probably freak the hell out at the epicness.

Edit: OH. MY. GAWD. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?
Despite the lack of explanation it's easy to know what's going on, eclipse's subs make it obvious. Even without my novel knowledge I would have been able to follow it PERFECTLY.

Spoiler:

So it looks like we WONT get an after story, and it really will end like the novels....
Dammit! Oh well.. I guess, but yeah... it's followed the novels 100%

Heir to Two World is a child... or rather, a "GOD" created by a human, and a tomogara. It was the sole purpose of engage link since season two. As you think it IS a child, but it is also Pheles and Johann, they didn't explain it at all which pisses me of...

Basically, they combined their power of existence, to create a new existence. What made the Tomogara ACCEPT the new change, is this child existence. As it is the very proof they needed to prove that Tomogara and Humans can live together in peace. Hence why Johann teased Yuji early on saying he'd "Change his situation for the better."

All this can be gathered just from watching the episode.

Can't wait for the finale ~

[myskaros]

I DLed 23 last night, about to watch it... but about the jar.

Spoiler:

It's a game changer, seriously.
The whole purpose the engage link, and from what you all said, they didn't explain WHAT it's importance is. And probably won't. >_>

That bit about the Reiji maigo at the beginning was MIND RAPE, that DID NOT happen in the novels. they never explained how the Reiji Maigo worked...I loved that. Also season three would do bes ton it's own, OR with some OVAs that detail Yuji's conversations with snake all throughout seasons 1 and 2.

Spoiler:

They kind of explained that another hybrid was destroyed before it could come into being, and that it needed some overwhelming amount of power of existence in order to sustain itself, I believe, but didn't really go into other ramifications.

So are you saying the Reiji Maigo exposition was good or bad? "Mind rape" to me sounds like a negative thing, but from context it seems you liked that part >_>

[MizuMikomi]

I DLed 23 last night, about to watch it... but about the jar.

Spoiler:

It's a game changer, seriously.
The whole purpose the engage link, and from what you all said, they didn't explain WHAT it's importance is. And probably won't. >_>

That bit about the Reiji maigo at the beginning was MIND RAPE, that DID NOT happen in the novels. they never explained how the Reiji Maigo worked...I loved that. Also season three would do bes ton it's own, OR with some OVAs that detail Yuji's conversations with snake all throughout seasons 1 and 2.

Spoiler:

They kind of explained that another hybrid was destroyed before it could come into being, and that it needed some overwhelming amount of power of existence in order to sustain itself, I believe, but didn't really go into other ramifications.

So are you saying the Reiji Maigo exposition was good or bad? "Mind rape" to me sounds like a negative thing, but from context it seems you liked that part >_>

Spoiler:

Mind rape can be used in a good or bad sense, in this sense it's good.
I wasn't expecting it, totally caught me off guard, made me squeal like a fan-girl... yeah.

Heir to The Two Worlds suffered the same fate as the original paradise. The Fear and Paranoia of Flame Haze.

Hint- Flame Haze are misguided and assumptive.

[pandahao]

last episode! so much win D:!

[myskaros]

If it weren't for the gaping disparity between seasons 2 and 3 (as a non-Japanese speaking anime-only audience), this would have been almost completely perfect. As it is, it gets pretty damn close.

Spoiler:

So Rammie's gift was to revert Yuuji from being a Torch? Does that not turn him back into a human and thus he'll die in <100 years? O.o Or did I miss something?

[leinaud]

*patiently waits for impending fan-gasm*

Good ending IMO, wrapped up nicely to an extent.

[MizuMikomi]

If it weren't for the gaping disparity between seasons 2 and 3 (as a non-Japanese speaking anime-only audience), this would have been almost completely perfect. As it is, it gets pretty damn close.

Spoiler:

So Rammie's gift was to revert Yuuji from being a Torch? Does that not turn him back into a human and thus he'll die in <100 years? O.o Or did I miss something?

Spoiler:

He was given an existence of his own, he still has the Reiji Maigo though. He and Shana are pretty much eternal, which is why I think that Takahashi could pull it back up in the future and continue with a new story set in Xanadu.

Sad that Shakugan no Shana as a series is over...

It doesn't mean a new work won't spring up in the future, though. I've sill yet to watch the final episode, since most of my family has been here for the past week, but I'll get around to it soon.

Since I read the novels, I knew how it would end, save for the fact that JC Staff excluded Shana's song. That was a bit of a disappointment. =/

[myskaros]

Since I read the novels, I knew how it would end, save for the fact that JC Staff excluded Shana's song. That was a bit of a disappointment. =/

Which song is that? I'm at work so I can't check, but I think the insert song for the final battle was Hishoku no Sora... definitely gave me chills when it started playing.

[Obake]

This ending pleases me.

Spoiler:

Sakai gets his well-deserved punch in the gut, then its happy ever after

Great use of Hishoku no Sora, and I quite like the one that played after that (I'm not familiar with it, but gonna have to look it up).

Since I read the novels, I knew how it would end, save for the fact that JC Staff excluded Shana's song. That was a bit of a disappointment. =/

So in the novels, Shana sang a song herself? I would've liked to hear that I think.

[MizuMikomi]

Since I read the novels, I knew how it would end, save for the fact that JC Staff excluded Shana's song. That was a bit of a disappointment. =/

Which song is that? I'm at work so I can't check, but I think the insert song for the final battle was Hishoku no Sora... definitely gave me chills when it started playing.

Hishoku no Sora you say!? HOLY CRAP!

Ah and it's the song that Wilhelmina sang to Shana in one of the older flashbacks.
It's Mathilde's love song that she sang to Alastor.

Wilhelmina apparently sang it to Shana earlier in the seriously, and it bugged Alastor a lot. Either way, it was a love song that she sang, and that was heard all throughout Misaki City.

If you are curious to hear Shana sing look up "Exist" the Opening to Shakugan no Shana DS/PS2.
Still... I was really looking forward to that, and they denied us of it.

Oh well... Hishoku no Sora will be awesome when I hear it in the episode... which is DLing... >_>