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Re: Mafia XVIII - Reverse Mafia [D2 Ends in 4 Hours]

Postby Ubiquitor » Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:41 am

vampko wrote:There's already been too much claiming. I'll wait some time before giving a claim.


Unfortunately, the damage has already been done. Unless you explain how Prin is innocent, several identities will have been sacrificed without gain. A miller claim could explain it. If you hold out until after his death, you could end up screwing town royally.
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Re: Mafia XVIII - Reverse Mafia [D2 Ends in 4 Hours]

Postby Empty Overture » Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:41 am

Honestly, I have no clue who to vote for. This game was just flip turned upside down.

So, I'll pass on voting until further developments. I just hope those occur before I have to leave for a few hours.
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Re: Mafia XVIII - Reverse Mafia [D2 Ends in 4 Hours]

Postby Prinapocalypse » Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:42 am

Sorry was working all day and I'm just finishing catching up on the thread now.

I'm wondering if there's an easy way to prove a cop role reveal is legit? Claymore has been quite scummy seeming the whole game to me and I question the claim.
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Re: Mafia XVIII - Reverse Mafia [D2 Ends in 4 Hours]

Postby vampko » Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:46 am

Sorry. I will refrain. No matter who it may benefit, there's already been quite a lot of claims.
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Re: Mafia XVIII - Reverse Mafia [D2 Ends in 4 Hours]

Postby Empty Overture » Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:50 am

vampko wrote:Sorry. I will refrain. No matter who it may benefit, there's already been quite a lot of claims.

This is bullshit.

So you rather potentially hurt town because you feel that it's not right to claim right now, when it's most essential? Bullshit.
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Re: Mafia XVIII - Reverse Mafia [D2 Ends in 4 Hours]

Postby vampko » Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:51 am

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vampko wrote:Sorry. I will refrain. No matter who it may benefit, there's already been quite a lot of claims.

This is bullshit.

So you rather potentially hurt town because you feel that it's not right to claim right now, when it's most essential? Bullshit.

Think what you want.
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Re: Mafia XVIII - Reverse Mafia [D2 Ends in 4 Hours]

Postby TheForeignGamer » Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:51 am

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Re: Mafia XVIII - Reverse Mafia [D2 Ends in 4 Hours]

Postby Ubiquitor » Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:52 am

Prinapocalypse wrote:I'm wondering if there's an easy way to prove a cop role reveal is legit? Claymore has been quite scummy seeming the whole game to me and I question the claim.


Claymore is always like that; nevertheless, it would be foolish to not let him use his supposed double investigation at least a second time. If you think about it, he could theoretically investigate everyone before lylo. In the meantime, flips may eventually disprove him or not.

vampko wrote:Think what you want.


I think that you would like to uphold your never lying in mafia streak. You say that Prin is innocent which implies that you turn up guilty on investigation; however, you cannot claim miller, since that is not true.

I simply hope that if you were town, you would have the courtesy not to ruin town over such a thing.

If you have another explanation, say so now. Yes, I know that the "claymore is mistaken/lying" explanation exists; however, the unfortunate fact is that the possibility that claymore is telling the truth is worth your lynch (you admit to being essentially vanilla).

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Re: Mafia XVIII - Reverse Mafia [D2 Ends in 4 Hours]

Postby Prinapocalypse » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:05 am

Very well.

Vote: Vampko

Since he doesn't seem to want to claim for some reason.

I still highly question Claymore's claim though.
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Re: Mafia XVIII - Reverse Mafia [D2 Ends in 4 Hours]

Postby vampko » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:15 am

I always uphold the game's rules even if it means hurting myself or others in the process.

Believe what you wish.

I wish I could sway your votes, but I don't see it happening all that simply. I am in a tough position.
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Re: Mafia XVIII - Reverse Mafia [D2 Ends in 4 Hours]

Postby PringlesXD » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:16 am

I'm going to read the thread; then I'll make my judgement.
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Re: Mafia XVIII - Reverse Mafia [D2 Ends in 4 Hours]

Postby Ubiquitor » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:26 am

vampko wrote:I always uphold the game's rules even if it means hurting myself or others in the process.


I believe that your definition of "Mass reveal" is different from the standard.

Edit: SJX, define "Mass reveal" to clarify your rules.

vampko wrote:I wish I could sway your votes, but I don't see it happening all that simply. I am in a tough position.


It doesn't seem like you want to provide any information. Why not explain your reason for knowing of Prinapocalypse's innocence?

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Re: Mafia XVIII - Reverse Mafia [D2 Ends in 4 Hours]

Postby vampko » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:42 am

Because, as I stated. I'm the one who was guilty.

That would make Prin innocent.

Just please, no matter what happens don't vote prin out unless you get some other sort of information. I am pretty positive he's one of the villains, and not a hero. Though, if he has some ability that screws with investigations then that would be troublesome as well -_-
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Re: Mafia XVIII - Reverse Mafia [D2 Ends in 4 Hours]

Postby lopez » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:48 am

Hmmm...so if Vamp got the "guilty" verdict, wouldn't that imply he's a villian? His claim of "catwoman" is indeed a villain, so that makes sense. If villian = town then that would make being "innocent" = mafia. If both Clay and Vamp's comments & claims are to be true and held together, then:

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I will remove my vote if he claims and it fits into this puzzling conundrum.
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Re: Mafia XVIII - Reverse Mafia [D2 Ends in 4 Hours]

Postby TheForeignGamer » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:49 am

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