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Re: License and Dub more anime

Postby Spaceshotx7 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:38 am

Another Follow up. I think companies in general are taking the cheap way out, and just want to generate more revenue for themselves rather than reinvesting it.

I also want to know why in some countries, all foreign media is dubbed?

I don't speak japanese, and I generally mute the sound if I was watching subs because it sounds gibberish to me.

If there was only an official international language that 90% of the people would understand, speak and learn. If English could become an International Language, with most of the world population speaking it.

I still notice that 90% of Japanese video games with voice acting are dubbed (except for some fighting games), and I'm wondering how the companies can dub video games but not anime?
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Re: License and Dub more anime

Postby kanade2 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:36 am

Spaceshotx7 wrote:Another Follow up. I think companies in general are taking the cheap way out, and just want to generate more revenue for themselves rather than reinvesting it.

I also want to know why in some countries, all foreign media is dubbed?

I don't speak japanese, and I generally mute the sound if I was watching subs because it sounds gibberish to me.

If there was only an official international language that 90% of the people would understand, speak and learn. If English could become an International Language, with most of the world population speaking it.

I still notice that 90% of Japanese video games with voice acting are dubbed (except for some fighting games), and I'm wondering how the companies can dub video games but not anime?


Umm no. You have to understand that dubbing everything was putting the companies in bankruptcy as they were not making enough money to cover the cost of a dub . People are buying less anime along with paying less for it(monthly subscription crunchyroll etc) nowadays given how many options that the internet has opened up . You may consider subbing to be the cheap way ,but it's what is keeping the companies alive over here.

Other countries can afford it plus the media is selling very well over there .

Video games have way bigger sales then anime has which is why the companies can afford to dub them.
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Re: License and Dub more anime

Postby myskaros » Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:53 am

Spaceshotx7 wrote:I still notice that 90% of Japanese video games with voice acting are dubbed (except for some fighting games), and I'm wondering how the companies can dub video games but not anime?


http://www.pixarplanet.com/forums/viewt ... 74#p283973

Evangelion: 2.22 You Can [Not] Advance opened in 22nd place with 42,000 units / $419,000, which is impressive for a niche market film like this.


http://www.siliconera.com/2011/08/04/ca ... n-the-u-s/

Catherine’s done well for Atlus in North America. According to a tweet from the Atlus USA Twitter account, the game sold 200,000 copies in its first week following its release.


It's a mere fact that anime is not a mainstream attraction in the US, not the way video games are. I'm not sure about Europe (I know manga has been pretty big in Europe since the early/mid-90s, not quite sure about anime) or other Western regions. However, looking at sales numbers for localized titles, it's quite obvious that a "hit" anime release sells 5 times less than a "hit" video game release. Eva2.22 is also a movie and not a complete series, so it costs a lot less to dub than a series does.

EDIT: Maybe comparing an anime movie with a video game is the wrong way to go about it, but I can say that it's really hard to find sales figures for anime in general >_> so I did what I could.
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Re: License and Dub more anime

Postby Mlada » Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:56 pm

I was sure that it was Toei that was of concern outside of Japan...I guess I'm wrong too...

But either way, tons of people have suspicions that Funimation will eventually be the ones to get the rights to Sailor Moon when and if it becomes available again. But everyone else pretty much said it for me that it would take A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY to even just win the rights of the show, and I think we all know that NISA's anime budget is nowhere near the level to even buy the rights for it alone. I don't know figures or anything, but due to Sailor Moon reaching the 20th anniversary this year (*feels so old*), tons of people have been fighting over this.

Well, now that I think about it, Toei I think only has the rights on the merchandise now, and there's been a TON of new merchandise to surface, so I guess it is just up to Naoko now as far as anime and manga sales go. But I might have that wrong too...
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Re: License and Dub more anime

Postby Hero » Thu May 10, 2012 2:27 am

Spaceshotx7 wrote:I find it unusual. Before 2008, I noticed that 95% of anime licensed were dubbed. ADV Films, Funimation, and Geneon USA dubbed all anime titles that were aquired, and all of a sudden come 2009 and beyond, and only 25-30% of anime these days are dubbed.

Yeah, and you know what happened? ADV and Geneon USA both went out of business. And Funimation was struggling so much that their parent company sold them at a huge loss.

Also, there was kind of that whole economic recession thing that happened in 2008, too.

But, you're absolutely right, it's very unusual that companies are no longer dubbing niche anime with low profit margins!
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Re: License and Dub more anime

Postby LAMV » Thu May 10, 2012 4:00 am

Hero wrote:
Spaceshotx7 wrote:I find it unusual. Before 2008, I noticed that 95% of anime licensed were dubbed. ADV Films, Funimation, and Geneon USA dubbed all anime titles that were aquired, and all of a sudden come 2009 and beyond, and only 25-30% of anime these days are dubbed.

Yeah, and you know what happened? ADV and Geneon USA both went out of business. And Funimation was struggling so much that their parent company sold them at a huge loss.

Also, there was kind of that whole economic recession thing that happened in 2008, too.

But, you're absolutely right, it's very unusual that companies are no longer dubbing niche anime with low profit margins!


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Re: License and Dub more anime

Postby Sheleigha » Thu May 10, 2012 5:26 am

LAMV wrote:
When answering someone, you need to first take the donkey tail pin out of your anus, else you look like an ass.


What he said was truth though. Many people seem to think these companies just SWIM in money and can afford it all, and they also tend to forget that these are still tough times, as we go through a period of recovery.
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Re: License and Dub more anime

Postby Houk » Thu May 10, 2012 6:35 am

There wasn't really any need to revive this or jump on each other about it.
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